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Trevor Wilson
2024-01-02 09:50:32 UTC
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I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
his own life, aged 41. Imagine if:

* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
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Mighty Mouse
2024-01-02 10:09:32 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing.
Great stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about
Turing. A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison,
Einstein's IQ was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
yes a terrible loss. he was forced to endure chemical castration, iirc
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Rod Speed
2024-01-02 16:37:47 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
That last never happened.
Post by Trevor Wilson
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
Just because he had a high IQ doesnt mean that he would have
contributed anything useful in that time.
Peter Jason
2024-01-02 20:31:13 UTC
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 03:37:47 +1100, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
That last never happened.
Post by Trevor Wilson
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
Just because he had a high IQ doesnt mean that he would have
contributed anything useful in that time.
Quite so. Even Einstein was burned out at 30.
Computer Nerd Kev
2024-01-02 21:05:59 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
That last never happened.
Not immediately at the end of the war, but they did later while the
project was still secret. Replica machines were later built. It was
a loss to history, but not to computer development.
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Rod Speed
2024-01-02 22:50:11 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer andhis thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
That last never happened.
Not immediately at the end of the war, but theydid later while the
project was still secret.
It was never destroyed in the sense of keeping
the technology secret forever, it was actually
just replaced with better technology.
Replica machines were later built. It was a loss to history,
Only in the sense of no longer being a working machine.

The maintenance effort required was just too much effort.
but not to computer development.
It was irrelevant to computer development.
keithr0
2024-01-04 09:47:26 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
If you're really interested in the subject, try reading "Alan Turing:
the enigma" by Andrew Hodges, it's the book that the film is based on.
It's an extensive biography from his childhood to his death, and paints
a picture of a brilliant man who couldn't quite come to terms with the
way that the world actually works.

Beware though, it's not an easy read, it's big (664 pages plus notes an
index) and goes into concepts of pure maths which was Turings subject.
Trevor Wilson
2024-01-04 20:52:35 UTC
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Post by keithr0
Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing.
Great stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about
Turing. A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison,
Einstein's IQ was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
the enigma" by Andrew Hodges, it's the book that the film is based on.
It's an extensive biography from his childhood to his death, and paints
a picture of a brilliant man who couldn't quite  come to terms with the
way that the world actually works.
Beware though, it's not an easy read, it's big (664 pages plus notes an
index) and goes into concepts of pure maths which was Turings subject.
**Thanks for the suggestion. Perhaps I will pick up a copy. It does
sound like a tough read.
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Petzl
2024-01-04 22:47:19 UTC
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:52:35 +1100, Trevor Wilson
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by keithr0
Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing.
Great stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about
Turing. A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison,
Einstein's IQ was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
the enigma" by Andrew Hodges, it's the book that the film is based on.
It's an extensive biography from his childhood to his death, and paints
a picture of a brilliant man who couldn't quite  come to terms with the
way that the world actually works.
Beware though, it's not an easy read, it's big (664 pages plus notes an
index) and goes into concepts of pure maths which was Turings subject.
**Thanks for the suggestion. Perhaps I will pick up a copy. It does
sound like a tough read.
there is a movie verygood one.
"The Imitation Game"
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Mighty Mouse
2024-01-05 00:18:03 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:52:35 +1100, Trevor Wilson
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by keithr0
Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing.
Great stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about
Turing. A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison,
Einstein's IQ was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
the enigma" by Andrew Hodges, it's the book that the film is based on.
It's an extensive biography from his childhood to his death, and paints
a picture of a brilliant man who couldn't quite  come to terms with the
way that the world actually works.
Beware though, it's not an easy read, it's big (664 pages plus notes an
index) and goes into concepts of pure maths which was Turings subject.
**Thanks for the suggestion. Perhaps I will pick up a copy. It does
sound like a tough read.
there is a movie verygood one.
"The Imitation Game"
yeah, seen it
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keithr0
2024-01-05 09:23:14 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:52:35 +1100, Trevor Wilson
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by keithr0
Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing.
Great stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about
Turing. A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison,
Einstein's IQ was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
the enigma" by Andrew Hodges, it's the book that the film is based on.
It's an extensive biography from his childhood to his death, and paints
a picture of a brilliant man who couldn't quite  come to terms with the
way that the world actually works.
Beware though, it's not an easy read, it's big (664 pages plus notes an
index) and goes into concepts of pure maths which was Turings subject.
**Thanks for the suggestion. Perhaps I will pick up a copy. It does
sound like a tough read.
there is a movie verygood one.
"The Imitation Game"
A reasonable movies, a very much dumbed down version of the book.
Petzl
2024-01-05 21:35:50 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:52:35 +1100, Trevor Wilson
Post by Trevor Wilson
Post by keithr0
Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing.
Great stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about
Turing. A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison,
Einstein's IQ was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
the enigma" by Andrew Hodges, it's the book that the film is based on.
It's an extensive biography from his childhood to his death, and paints
a picture of a brilliant man who couldn't quite  come to terms with the
way that the world actually works.
Beware though, it's not an easy read, it's big (664 pages plus notes an
index) and goes into concepts of pure maths which was Turings subject.
**Thanks for the suggestion. Perhaps I will pick up a copy. It does
sound like a tough read.
there is a movie verygood one.
"The Imitation Game"
A reasonable movies, a very much dumbed down version of the book.
Well if you wish to see it YouTube rents it for $2.99 for 24 hours.
My eyesight is pretty well shot, so good movies make good
entertainment.
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Ozix
2024-01-06 10:54:02 UTC
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Post by Trevor Wilson
I watched the excellent movie made about Alan Turing, during his
code-breaking in WWII England. It's my second (or third) viewing. Great
stuff. Fascinating guy. It prompted me to do some reading about Turing.
A true genius, with an IQ of around 185. For comparison, Einstein's IQ
was around 160. I just thought is was so sad that he was driven to take
* The Poms fostered more development of his computer and his thinking,
rather than destroying it all at the end of the war.
* Turing had another 30 ~ 40 years to contribute to the world.
Interesting SBS just showed another movie called Enigma, set a year
later in the war when the German navy starting using more secure Enigma
machines.

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