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Mighty Mouse
2023-12-06 09:15:16 UTC
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the entire exhaust system needed replacement, which was
one of the factors in deciding to upgrade to a new car.
You should have come over when you had your chance. I'm not
too bad with pipes :)
Not too bad with trumpets either - you're always blowing yours.
I bet most mechanics would love to have a 'shed' like his in
their back yard to play in tho
this is my 'play pen' .. Loading Image...
(part of it)
Very nice, Felix. I appreciate people who are well organised
and neat & tidy. It says a lot about their work ethics in my
opinion.
you're certainly in that category yourself
and this is where I produce the pearls of wisdom that appear here :)
Loading Image...
An interesting collection of vintage electronics :)
just as a matter of interest, keefy old stick, what is the basis
for your determination of them as 'vintage'? given that you cannot
know what is in those towers, but can only guess. one should not
judge a book by it's cover, as the saying goes. or do you consider
something to be vintage if it doesn't look like it came off the USS
Enterprise, complete with flashing neon lights and self levitation
properties? curios minds would like to know...
I have 4 towers, no, make that 5 if you include the Mac Pro. None
are younger than 12, most older - up to 20 years. All are pretty
much old hat. The only reason you would need a tower case nowadays
is if you were into gaming or the like and needed some heavy hitting
hardware - and the room to plug it in. I am not in that category, at
least not any more. Nowadays computers like the Mac Mini or laptops
suit my needs.
not interested in Macs, and I have a laptop but only use it when
traveling
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
Loading Image...
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. Loading Image... 
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item?  :)
I inherited a ~10 year old Acer Aspire 15.4" laptop in like new
condition, was running Win 8.0 so I removed the 500 GB HDD, inserted a
128 GB SSD, installed Linux mint 22 and it runs like a racehorse.
yep. I have 128 Gb Samsung SSD I replaced from my Acer Laptop with a
bigger one. think I will use that in the Linux machine, not that it
really needs it.
Need a Windows machine, NUCs fill that need more than satisfactorily.
really?
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23790956/intel-nuc-compact-pc-discontinued
That may be so but there are plenty of small form factor PCs out
there. A friend here buys used ones (ex lease mostly) by the hundreds,
then onsells them to Europe and Asia for a rather tidy profit. For
instance;
https://au.pcmag.com/desktops/51728/the-best-windows-mini-pcs
that's good for him, but I don't need one. I've got the setup for what I
want. also got a PC in the bedroom, and one in the lounge room connected
to the TV's. don't use them much tho.
Need more than one beast on your desktop? Use a KVM.
I use a KVM. I have everything setup how I want.
the KVM I use is electronic. just press one button to switch between
machines.
--
Have a nice day!..
Xeno
2023-12-06 10:57:18 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
the entire exhaust system needed replacement, which was
one of the factors in deciding to upgrade to a new car.
You should have come over when you had your chance. I'm not
too bad with pipes :)
Not too bad with trumpets either - you're always blowing yours.
I bet most mechanics would love to have a 'shed' like his in
their back yard to play in tho
this is my 'play pen' .. https://auslink.info/pics/shed1.jpg
(part of it)
Very nice, Felix. I appreciate people who are well organised
and neat & tidy. It says a lot about their work ethics in my
opinion.
you're certainly in that category yourself
and this is where I produce the pearls of wisdom that appear here :)
https://auslink.info/pics/study.jpg
An interesting collection of vintage electronics :)
just as a matter of interest, keefy old stick, what is the basis
for your determination of them as 'vintage'? given that you cannot
know what is in those towers, but can only guess. one should not
judge a book by it's cover, as the saying goes. or do you consider
something to be vintage if it doesn't look like it came off the USS
Enterprise, complete with flashing neon lights and self levitation
properties? curios minds would like to know...
I have 4 towers, no, make that 5 if you include the Mac Pro. None
are younger than 12, most older - up to 20 years. All are pretty
much old hat. The only reason you would need a tower case nowadays
is if you were into gaming or the like and needed some heavy hitting
hardware - and the room to plug it in. I am not in that category, at
least not any more. Nowadays computers like the Mac Mini or laptops
suit my needs.
not interested in Macs, and I have a laptop but only use it when
traveling
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
I see you have a beige floppy drive in your black box. I retained a
couple of those but, in the towers I have remaining, I have black face
IDE 250 MB Zip drives. Much nicer that those old 1.4 MB floppy drives.
Post by Mighty Mouse
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
Leftovers from the dark ages by the look of it. I forsook the beige box
decades ago, black is beautiful around here
Post by Mighty Mouse
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item?  :)
I inherited a ~10 year old Acer Aspire 15.4" laptop in like new
condition, was running Win 8.0 so I removed the 500 GB HDD, inserted a
128 GB SSD, installed Linux mint 22 and it runs like a racehorse.
yep. I have 128 Gb Samsung SSD I replaced from my Acer Laptop with a
bigger one. think I will use that in the Linux machine, not that it
really needs it.
It really makes an underpowered laptop, or desktop, sit up and take
notice. A fast one can be wasted on a slow SATA interface though.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Need a Windows machine, NUCs fill that need more than satisfactorily.
really?
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23790956/intel-nuc-compact-pc-discontinued
That may be so but there are plenty of small form factor PCs out
there. A friend here buys used ones (ex lease mostly) by the hundreds,
then onsells them to Europe and Asia for a rather tidy profit. For
instance;
https://au.pcmag.com/desktops/51728/the-best-windows-mini-pcs
that's good for him, but I don't need one. I've got the setup for what I
want. also got a PC in the bedroom, and one in the lounge room connected
to the TV's. don't use them much tho.
My Mac Minis are a small form factor, very handy for saving desktop space
Post by Mighty Mouse
Need more than one beast on your desktop? Use a KVM.
I use a KVM. I have everything setup how I want.
the KVM I use is electronic. just press one button to switch between
machines.
Ditto, but the ones I use have keyboard combination keystroke switch
over as well. And one is even graced with a *remote control*.
--
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Mighty Mouse
2023-12-06 13:38:12 UTC
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Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
the entire exhaust system needed replacement, which was
one of the factors in deciding to upgrade to a new car.
You should have come over when you had your chance. I'm
not too bad with pipes :)
Not too bad with trumpets either - you're always blowing yours.
I bet most mechanics would love to have a 'shed' like his
in their back yard to play in tho
this is my 'play pen' .. https://auslink.info/pics/shed1.jpg
(part of it)
Very nice, Felix. I appreciate people who are well organised
and neat & tidy. It says a lot about their work ethics in my
opinion.
you're certainly in that category yourself
and this is where I produce the pearls of wisdom that appear here :)
https://auslink.info/pics/study.jpg
An interesting collection of vintage electronics :)
just as a matter of interest, keefy old stick, what is the basis
for your determination of them as 'vintage'? given that you
cannot know what is in those towers, but can only guess. one
should not judge a book by it's cover, as the saying goes. or do
you consider something to be vintage if it doesn't look like it
came off the USS Enterprise, complete with flashing neon lights
and self levitation properties? curios minds would like to know...
I have 4 towers, no, make that 5 if you include the Mac Pro. None
are younger than 12, most older - up to 20 years. All are pretty
much old hat. The only reason you would need a tower case nowadays
is if you were into gaming or the like and needed some heavy
hitting hardware - and the room to plug it in. I am not in that
category, at least not any more. Nowadays computers like the Mac
Mini or laptops suit my needs.
not interested in Macs, and I have a laptop but only use it when
traveling
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint
on the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
I see you have a beige floppy drive in your black box.
why not
Post by Xeno
I retained a couple of those but, in the towers I have remaining, I
have black face IDE 250 MB Zip drives. Much nicer that those old 1.4
MB floppy drives.
I have a Zip 250 MB in one of my main computers also
Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
Leftovers from the dark ages by the look of it. I forsook the beige
box decades ago, black is beautiful around here
yeah whatever
Post by Xeno
Post by Mighty Mouse
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item?  :)
I inherited a ~10 year old Acer Aspire 15.4" laptop in like new
condition, was running Win 8.0 so I removed the 500 GB HDD, inserted
a 128 GB SSD, installed Linux mint 22 and it runs like a racehorse.
yep. I have 128 Gb Samsung SSD I replaced from my Acer Laptop with a
bigger one. think I will use that in the Linux machine, not that it
really needs it.
It really makes an underpowered laptop, or desktop, sit up and take
notice. A fast one can be wasted on a slow SATA interface though.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Need a Windows machine, NUCs fill that need more than satisfactorily.
really?
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23790956/intel-nuc-compact-pc-discontinued
That may be so but there are plenty of small form factor PCs out
there. A friend here buys used ones (ex lease mostly) by the
hundreds, then onsells them to Europe and Asia for a rather tidy
profit. For instance;
https://au.pcmag.com/desktops/51728/the-best-windows-mini-pcs
that's good for him, but I don't need one. I've got the setup for
what I want. also got a PC in the bedroom, and one in the lounge room
connected to the TV's. don't use them much tho.
My Mac Minis are a small form factor, very handy for saving desktop space
Post by Mighty Mouse
Need more than one beast on your desktop? Use a KVM.
I use a KVM. I have everything setup how I want.
the KVM I use is electronic. just press one button to switch between
machines.
Ditto, but the ones I use have keyboard combination keystroke switch
over as well. And one is even graced with a *remote control*.
--
Have a nice day!..
Rod Speed
2023-12-06 14:41:09 UTC
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On Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:15:16 +1100, Mighty Mouse
Post by Mighty Mouse
the entire exhaust system needed replacement, which was one
of the factors in deciding to upgrade to a new car.
You should have come over when you had your chance. I'm not
too bad with pipes :)
Not too bad with trumpets either - you're always blowing yours.
I bet most mechanics would love to have a 'shed' like his in
their back yard to play in tho
this is my 'play pen' .. https://auslink.info/pics/shed1.jpg
(part of it)
Very nice, Felix. I appreciate people who are well organised and
neat & tidy. It says a lot about their work ethics in my opinion.
you're certainly in that category yourself
and this is where I produce the pearls of wisdom that appear here :)
https://auslink.info/pics/study.jpg
An interesting collection of vintage electronics :)
just as a matter of interest, keefy old stick, what is the basis for
your determination of them as 'vintage'? given that you cannot know
what is in those towers, but can only guess. one should not judge a
book by it's cover, as the saying goes. or do you consider something
to be vintage if it doesn't look like it came off the USS
Enterprise, complete with flashing neon lights and self levitation
properties? curios minds would like to know...
I have 4 towers, no, make that 5 if you include the Mac Pro. None are
younger than 12, most older - up to 20 years. All are pretty much old
hat. The only reason you would need a tower case nowadays is if you
were into gaming or the like and needed some heavy hitting hardware -
and the room to plug it in. I am not in that category, at least not
any more. Nowadays computers like the Mac Mini or laptops suit my
needs.
not interested in Macs, and I have a laptop but only use it when
traveling
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
No value at all.
Post by Mighty Mouse
I inherited a ~10 year old Acer Aspire 15.4" laptop in like new
condition, was running Win 8.0 so I removed the 500 GB HDD, inserted a
128 GB SSD, installed Linux mint 22 and it runs like a racehorse.
yep. I have 128 Gb Samsung SSD I replaced from my Acer Laptop with a
bigger one. think I will use that in the Linux machine, not that it
really needs it.
Need a Windows machine, NUCs fill that need more than satisfactorily.
really?
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23790956/intel-nuc-compact-pc-discontinued
That may be so but there are plenty of small form factor PCs out there.
A friend here buys used ones (ex lease mostly) by the hundreds, then
onsells them to Europe and Asia for a rather tidy profit. For instance;
https://au.pcmag.com/desktops/51728/the-best-windows-mini-pcs
that's good for him, but I don't need one. I've got the setup for what I
want. also got a PC in the bedroom, and one in the lounge room connected
to the TV's. don't use them much tho.
Need more than one beast on your desktop? Use a KVM.
I use a KVM. I have everything setup how I want.
the KVM I use is electronic. just press one button to switch between
machines.
Computer Nerd Kev
2023-12-06 21:38:38 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
On Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:15:16 +1100, Mighty Mouse
Post by Mighty Mouse
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
No value at all.
A quick look at sold listings on Ebay proves you wrong.
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Rod Speed
2023-12-06 22:35:07 UTC
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Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Mighty Mouse
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
No value at all.
A quick look at sold listings on Ebay proves you wrong.
No it does not with the one he has.
Computer Nerd Kev
2023-12-06 21:36:16 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
People are paying $100 or more now, especially if pre-installed
with a collection of classic DOS games. I've been thinking of
selling off some that are rusting away in the shed, but I worry
that all the boards will be knocked lose in the post and I'd just
get people complaining that it doesn't work when they receive them.
Plus the rust is real too.

Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
_case_ advertised for $110:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816

From a seller who recently sold a 486 with Win95 installed for $549:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381

They even got $299 for a 286 in a boring little office-PC case:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011

Well it seems the more I procrastinate the more they're worth, but
like old cars it's all a matter of how much they rust away while I
wait!

Also this is posted, as usual, from a Pentium 1 beige box PC in a
case that looks somewhat similar to your 386 one. Booted into
Linux (an old version, but it is able to boot into a current
Linux distro Live CD), but also with Win98 installed on a second
HDD (used mainly to run software for old parallel port and ISA
electronics-related hardware devices).
Post by Mighty Mouse
Need a Windows machine, NUCs fill that need more than satisfactorily.
really?
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23790956/intel-nuc-compact-pc-discontinued
That may be so but there are plenty of small form factor PCs out
there. A friend here buys used ones (ex lease mostly) by the hundreds,
then onsells them to Europe and Asia for a rather tidy profit. For
instance;
https://au.pcmag.com/desktops/51728/the-best-windows-mini-pcs
that's good for him, but I don't need one. I've got the setup for what I
want. also got a PC in the bedroom, and one in the lounge room connected
to the TV's. don't use them much tho.
SBCs (single-board-computers) work out cheaper than things like the
Intel NUCs, and are often lower power consumption too. Of course
you do then have the project of making/buying a case and figuring
out how to set the software up.

Besides the ARM-based ones like the Raspberry Pis, there are some
x86_64 SBCs out there which can be a much more power-efficient
replacement for an always-on desktop PC.
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Mighty Mouse
2023-12-06 23:08:07 UTC
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Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Mighty Mouse
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
People are paying $100 or more now, especially if pre-installed
with a collection of classic DOS games. I've been thinking of
selling off some that are rusting away in the shed, but I worry
that all the boards will be knocked lose in the post and I'd just
get people complaining that it doesn't work when they receive them.
Plus the rust is real too.
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
very interesting. thanks for that. I will see what I have I can sell!
the biggest problem with such large items is the packing and shipping.

this is the best company I've found for shipping ..
https://au.interparcel.com/ they give you quotes from all the major
carriers, then you just pick the one you want
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Well it seems the more I procrastinate the more they're worth,
it seems if you keep anything long enough it becomes worth something to
collectors
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
but
like old cars it's all a matter of how much they rust away while I
wait!
fortunately I can store items without that problem.
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Also this is posted, as usual, from a Pentium 1 beige box PC in a
case that looks somewhat similar to your 386 one. Booted into
Linux (an old version, but it is able to boot into a current
Linux distro Live CD), but also with Win98 installed on a second
HDD (used mainly to run software for old parallel port and ISA
electronics-related hardware devices).
this is the PC I currently use .. Loading Image...
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Mighty Mouse
Need a Windows machine, NUCs fill that need more than satisfactorily.
really?
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23790956/intel-nuc-compact-pc-discontinued
That may be so but there are plenty of small form factor PCs out
there. A friend here buys used ones (ex lease mostly) by the hundreds,
then onsells them to Europe and Asia for a rather tidy profit. For
instance;
https://au.pcmag.com/desktops/51728/the-best-windows-mini-pcs
that's good for him, but I don't need one. I've got the setup for what I
want. also got a PC in the bedroom, and one in the lounge room connected
to the TV's. don't use them much tho.
SBCs (single-board-computers) work out cheaper than things like the
Intel NUCs, and are often lower power consumption too. Of course
you do then have the project of making/buying a case and figuring
out how to set the software up.
Besides the ARM-based ones like the Raspberry Pis, there are some
x86_64 SBCs out there which can be a much more power-efficient
replacement for an always-on desktop PC.
--
Have a nice day!..
Computer Nerd Kev
2023-12-07 01:32:42 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Mighty Mouse
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
People are paying $100 or more now, especially if pre-installed
with a collection of classic DOS games. I've been thinking of
selling off some that are rusting away in the shed, but I worry
that all the boards will be knocked lose in the post and I'd just
get people complaining that it doesn't work when they receive them.
Plus the rust is real too.
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
very interesting. thanks for that. I will see what I have I can sell!
the biggest problem with such large items is the packing and shipping.
this is the best company I've found for shipping ..
https://au.interparcel.com/ they give you quotes from all the major
carriers, then you just pick the one you want
Thanks for that link, it points out some cheaper courier options
that I wasn't aware of, although I'm a bit skeptical about the
reality of them picking up from my location the next day. Courier
deliveries often take a couple of weeks after arriving at the
nearest major town, before they brave the journey out into the
unknown.

I'd probably send them by Aus Post since they should come under the
parcel weight limit. It's the tendency of things like RAM to get
dislodged from knocks that makes me concerned. If moving a PC
carelessly from room to room can do it, I can only imagine what
happens bouncing around in a truck (and trust me, a lot of bouncing
around goes on in courier trucks for sure!).
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Well it seems the more I procrastinate the more they're worth,
it seems if you keep anything long enough it becomes worth something to
collectors
Unfortunately not, as I found out while selling a deceased
relative's military book collection a while ago. Plenty of first
editions, hundreds touching or over 100 years old, but if nobody's
interested in the subject anymore then it doesn't matter much.
Still, three collectable ones (not the oldest) turned out to be
worth around $600 total alone, and with a lot of work I managed to
sell and give away the rest to homes other than the tip before the
house had to be cleared. The biggest surprise was that very few
book sellers were interested, but some individuals were keen.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
but
like old cars it's all a matter of how much they rust away while I
wait!
fortunately I can store items without that problem.
Actually it looks like I did move most of the old ones inside a
while ago when I first thought about selling some. That explains
why I don't have any room. :)
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Also this is posted, as usual, from a Pentium 1 beige box PC in a
case that looks somewhat similar to your 386 one. Booted into
Linux (an old version, but it is able to boot into a current
Linux distro Live CD), but also with Win98 installed on a second
HDD (used mainly to run software for old parallel port and ISA
electronics-related hardware devices).
this is the PC I currently use .. https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
I suspect it's way more powerful than you theoretically need, but
Windows always finds ways to swallow up resources so it's the price
you pay with that.
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Mighty Mouse
2023-12-10 00:43:00 UTC
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Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
People are paying $100 or more now, especially if pre-installed
with a collection of classic DOS games. I've been thinking of
selling off some that are rusting away in the shed, but I worry
that all the boards will be knocked lose in the post and I'd just
get people complaining that it doesn't work when they receive them.
Plus the rust is real too.
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
very interesting. thanks for that. I will see what I have I can sell!
the biggest problem with such large items is the packing and shipping.
this is the best company I've found for shipping ..
https://au.interparcel.com/ they give you quotes from all the major
carriers, then you just pick the one you want
Thanks for that link, it points out some cheaper courier options
that I wasn't aware of, although I'm a bit skeptical about the
reality of them picking up from my location the next day. Courier
deliveries often take a couple of weeks after arriving at the
nearest major town, before they brave the journey out into the
unknown.
never had a problem with them. pick up same day or next and delivery
usually three or four days
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
I'd probably send them by Aus Post since they should come under the
parcel weight limit.
they have a generous weight limit, but a length limit of 1 metre, so you
need to be aware of that
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
It's the tendency of things like RAM to get
dislodged from knocks that makes me concerned. If moving a PC
carelessly from room to room can do it,
had to imagine that happening since RAM locks in it's slots with clips
each end
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
I can only imagine what
happens bouncing around in a truck (and trust me, a lot of bouncing
around goes on in courier trucks for sure!).
you need to pack them with spongy foam or crumpled up newspaper, etc.,
so they can move within the packing box to absorb some impact force
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Well it seems the more I procrastinate the more they're worth,
it seems if you keep anything long enough it becomes worth something to
collectors
Unfortunately not, as I found out while selling a deceased
relative's military book collection a while ago. Plenty of first
editions, hundreds touching or over 100 years old, but if nobody's
interested in the subject anymore then it doesn't matter much.
Still, three collectable ones (not the oldest) turned out to be
worth around $600 total alone, and with a lot of work I managed to
sell and give away the rest to homes other than the tip before the
house had to be cleared. The biggest surprise was that very few
book sellers were interested, but some individuals were keen.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
but
like old cars it's all a matter of how much they rust away while I
wait!
fortunately I can store items without that problem.
Actually it looks like I did move most of the old ones inside a
while ago when I first thought about selling some. That explains
why I don't have any room. :)
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Also this is posted, as usual, from a Pentium 1 beige box PC in a
case that looks somewhat similar to your 386 one. Booted into
Linux (an old version, but it is able to boot into a current
Linux distro Live CD), but also with Win98 installed on a second
HDD (used mainly to run software for old parallel port and ISA
electronics-related hardware devices).
this is the PC I currently use .. https://auslink.info/pics/speccy1.jpg
I suspect it's way more powerful than you theoretically need, but
Windows always finds ways to swallow up resources so it's the price
you pay with that.
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Computer Nerd Kev
2023-12-10 21:13:55 UTC
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Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Mighty Mouse
this is the best company I've found for shipping ..
https://au.interparcel.com/ they give you quotes from all the major
carriers, then you just pick the one you want
Thanks for that link, it points out some cheaper courier options
that I wasn't aware of, although I'm a bit skeptical about the
reality of them picking up from my location the next day. Courier
deliveries often take a couple of weeks after arriving at the
nearest major town, before they brave the journey out into the
unknown.
never had a problem with them. pick up same day or next and delivery
usually three or four days
All the courier companies sub-contract with the same local courier
company which is willing to deliver to me, but only when it suits
them. Except for many overseas companies (eg. DHL) that just send
with Aus Post once the parcel gets to Australia.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
It's the tendency of things like RAM to get
dislodged from knocks that makes me concerned. If moving a PC
carelessly from room to room can do it,
had to imagine that happening since RAM locks in it's slots with clips
each end
Presumably the RAM slot designer thought so too, but in practice
there's still some wiggle-room when clipped in which allows them to
come out of the slot contacts enough to stop working. Same thing
with expansion cards (PCI, etc.) even though they're usally screwed
in at the panel.

It's the first thing to check if a desktop PC has been moved and
won't boot thereafter. I guess for posting them I could just put a
disclaimer in the Ebay listing explaining that buyers should be
prepared to do that if the received computer doesn't boot.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
I can only imagine what
happens bouncing around in a truck (and trust me, a lot of bouncing
around goes on in courier trucks for sure!).
you need to pack them with spongy foam or crumpled up newspaper, etc.,
so they can move within the packing box to absorb some impact force
Sure but I've seen that it doesn't take using them as a football to
cause the trouble, it would be too hard to avoid any shaking about
inside.
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2023-12-10 23:28:11 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Mighty Mouse
this is the best company I've found for shipping ..
https://au.interparcel.com/ they give you quotes from all the major
carriers, then you just pick the one you want
Thanks for that link, it points out some cheaper courier options
that I wasn't aware of, although I'm a bit skeptical about the
reality of them picking up from my location the next day. Courier
deliveries often take a couple of weeks after arriving at the
nearest major town, before they brave the journey out into the
unknown.
never had a problem with them. pick up same day or next and delivery
usually three or four days
All the courier companies sub-contract with the same local courier
company which is willing to deliver to me, but only when it suits
them. Except for many overseas companies (eg. DHL) that just send
with Aus Post once the parcel gets to Australia.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
It's the tendency of things like RAM to get
dislodged from knocks that makes me concerned. If moving a PC
carelessly from room to room can do it,
had to imagine that happening since RAM locks in it's slots with clips
each end
Presumably the RAM slot designer thought so too, but in practice
there's still some wiggle-room when clipped in which allows them to
come out of the slot contacts enough to stop working. Same thing
with expansion cards (PCI, etc.) even though they're usally screwed
in at the panel.
It's the first thing to check if a desktop PC has been moved and
won't boot thereafter. I guess for posting them I could just put a
disclaimer in the Ebay listing explaining that buyers should be
prepared to do that if the received computer doesn't boot.
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
I can only imagine what
happens bouncing around in a truck (and trust me, a lot of bouncing
around goes on in courier trucks for sure!).
you need to pack them with spongy foam or crumpled up newspaper, etc.,
so they can move within the packing box to absorb some impact force
Sure but I've seen that it doesn't take using them as a football to
cause the trouble, it would be too hard to avoid any shaking about
inside.
I guess all you can do is put a disclaimer on the eBay add as you suggest
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Keithr0
2023-12-07 00:09:35 UTC
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Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Mighty Mouse
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
People are paying $100 or more now, especially if pre-installed
with a collection of classic DOS games. I've been thinking of
selling off some that are rusting away in the shed, but I worry
that all the boards will be knocked lose in the post and I'd just
get people complaining that it doesn't work when they receive them.
Plus the rust is real too.
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
Back in the 90s I was asked to appraise some 286 machines that were
being offered to us as part of a deal for some second hand mainframe
parts. Not only were they rusty but there was grass growing inside.
Unfortunately the grass was the type that you cut with a lawnmower,
otherwise it would it would have been worthwhile taking them. Offer
declined.
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
Much cheaper at the local op shop if you're into that sort of thing.
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Well it seems the more I procrastinate the more they're worth, but
like old cars it's all a matter of how much they rust away while I
wait!
Also this is posted, as usual, from a Pentium 1 beige box PC in a
case that looks somewhat similar to your 386 one. Booted into
Linux (an old version, but it is able to boot into a current
Linux distro Live CD), but also with Win98 installed on a second
HDD (used mainly to run software for old parallel port and ISA
electronics-related hardware devices).
Post by Mighty Mouse
Need a Windows machine, NUCs fill that need more than satisfactorily.
really?
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23790956/intel-nuc-compact-pc-discontinued
That may be so but there are plenty of small form factor PCs out
there. A friend here buys used ones (ex lease mostly) by the hundreds,
then onsells them to Europe and Asia for a rather tidy profit. For
instance;
https://au.pcmag.com/desktops/51728/the-best-windows-mini-pcs
that's good for him, but I don't need one. I've got the setup for what I
want. also got a PC in the bedroom, and one in the lounge room connected
to the TV's. don't use them much tho.
SBCs (single-board-computers) work out cheaper than things like the
Intel NUCs, and are often lower power consumption too. Of course
you do then have the project of making/buying a case and figuring
out how to set the software up.
Besides the ARM-based ones like the Raspberry Pis, there are some
x86_64 SBCs out there which can be a much more power-efficient
replacement for an always-on desktop PC.
Clocky
2023-12-07 00:54:21 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Mighty Mouse
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item?  :)
People are paying $100 or more now, especially if pre-installed
with a collection of classic DOS games. I've been thinking of
selling off some that are rusting away in the shed, but I worry
that all the boards will be knocked lose in the post and I'd just
get people complaining that it doesn't work when they receive them.
Plus the rust is real too.
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
Back in the 90s I was asked to appraise some 286 machines that were
being offered to us as part of a deal for some second hand mainframe
parts. Not only were they rusty but there was grass growing inside.
Unfortunately the grass was the type that you cut with a lawnmower,
otherwise it would it would have been worthwhile taking them. Offer
declined.
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
Much cheaper at the local op shop if you're into that sort of thing.
I haven't seen an op-shop sell that vintage computers in about 15 years.
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Computer Nerd Kev
2023-12-07 01:41:35 UTC
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Post by Keithr0
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
Much cheaper at the local op shop if you're into that sort of thing.
I look around op-shops often and actually I'd say the era of
finding such old PCs there is long gone. In fact even the ones that
do take electronics rarely seem to have PCs of any description.
Computer accessories are often there though. It might depend on
what they choose to accept, I knew one Salvos that used to keep all
that stuff out the back but later switched to just throwing it away
immediately (with rare exceptions).
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Clocky
2023-12-07 08:47:24 UTC
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Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Keithr0
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
Much cheaper at the local op shop if you're into that sort of thing.
I look around op-shops often and actually I'd say the era of
finding such old PCs there is long gone. In fact even the ones that
do take electronics rarely seem to have PCs of any description.
Computer accessories are often there though. It might depend on
what they choose to accept, I knew one Salvos that used to keep all
that stuff out the back but later switched to just throwing it away
immediately (with rare exceptions).
Yep. Also they can't sell stuff without testing and tagging and it's
often too much hassle so they just chuck it.

In any event the days of finding vintage computer are long gone. I'm
still kicking myself for leaving a SOL-20 at an op-shop many moons ago
because I thought the $15 they were asking was a bit steep.
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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Rod Speed
2023-12-07 17:05:26 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Keithr0
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
Much cheaper at the local op shop if you're into that sort of thing.
I look around op-shops often and actually I'd say the era of
finding such old PCs there is long gone. In fact even the ones that
do take electronics rarely seem to have PCs of any description.
Computer accessories are often there though. It might depend on
what they choose to accept, I knew one Salvos that used to keep all
that stuff out the back but later switched to just throwing it away
immediately (with rare exceptions).
Yep. Also they can't sell stuff without testing and tagging
That is just plain wrong.
Post by Clocky
and it's often too much hassle so they just chuck it.
In any event the days of finding vintage computer are long gone. I'm
still kicking myself for leaving a SOL-20 at an op-shop many moons ago
because I thought the $15 they were asking was a bit steep.
Rod Speed
2023-12-07 17:03:53 UTC
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On Thu, 07 Dec 2023 12:41:35 +1100, Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Keithr0
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305214161381
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305283908011
Much cheaper at the local op shop if you're into that sort of thing.
I look around op-shops often and actually I'd say the era of
finding such old PCs there is long gone. In fact even the ones that
do take electronics rarely seem to have PCs of any description.
Computer accessories are often there though. It might depend on
what they choose to accept, I knew one Salvos that used to keep all
that stuff out the back but later switched to just throwing it away
immediately (with rare exceptions).
Never seen anyone buy a used PC at a garage sale. Used laptops do sell.
Clocky
2023-12-07 00:51:18 UTC
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Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Mighty Mouse
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item? :)
People are paying $100 or more now, especially if pre-installed
with a collection of classic DOS games. I've been thinking of
selling off some that are rusting away in the shed, but I worry
that all the boards will be knocked lose in the post and I'd just
get people complaining that it doesn't work when they receive them.
Plus the rust is real too.
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
Even some CRT monitors are fetching $400+! A good place for selling
stuff are the vintage computer groups on facebook.
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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Computer Nerd Kev
2023-12-07 01:47:15 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
Even some CRT monitors are fetching $400+!
I'm not sure how people even think about posting those, except if
they still have the foam packing, but I guess they find ways. There
are interesting videos showing how CRT TV manufacturers tested
their packaging by dropping and vibrating the boxes.
Post by Clocky
A good place for selling stuff are the vintage computer groups on
facebook.
I'm allergic to Facebook.
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2023-12-07 17:06:38 UTC
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On Thu, 07 Dec 2023 12:47:15 +1100, Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
Even some CRT monitors are fetching $400+!
I'm not sure how people even think about posting those, except if
they still have the foam packing, but I guess they find ways. There
are interesting videos showing how CRT TV manufacturers tested
their packaging by dropping and vibrating the boxes.
Post by Clocky
A good place for selling stuff are the vintage computer groups on
facebook.
I'm allergic to Facebook.
More fool you, vast amounts of stuff moves that way now.
Clocky
2023-12-14 05:06:35 UTC
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Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
Even some CRT monitors are fetching $400+!
I'm not sure how people even think about posting those, except if
they still have the foam packing, but I guess they find ways. There
are interesting videos showing how CRT TV manufacturers tested
their packaging by dropping and vibrating the boxes.
Post by Clocky
A good place for selling stuff are the vintage computer groups on
facebook.
I'm allergic to Facebook.
I don't like it either but I just sold a 386 for $350 so I'll put up
with it.
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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Mighty Mouse
2023-12-14 07:52:37 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
Even some CRT monitors are fetching $400+!
I'm not sure how people even think about posting those, except if
they still have the foam packing, but I guess they find ways. There
are interesting videos showing how CRT TV manufacturers tested
their packaging by dropping and vibrating the boxes.
Post by Clocky
A good place for selling stuff are the vintage computer groups on
facebook.
clocky which ones are they?
Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
I'm allergic to Facebook.
I don't like it either but I just sold a 386 for $350 so I'll put up
with it.
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"What is more likely, a miraculous virgin birth, or that a Jewish girl lied"
Mighty Mouse
2023-12-14 08:12:18 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
Even some CRT monitors are fetching $400+!
I'm not sure how people even think about posting those, except if
they still have the foam packing, but I guess they find ways. There
are interesting videos showing how CRT TV manufacturers tested
their packaging by dropping and vibrating the boxes.
Post by Clocky
A good place for selling stuff are the vintage computer groups on
facebook.
clocky which ones are they?
it's ok. I googled on fb. there are heaps of them!
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
I'm allergic to Facebook.
I don't like it either but I just sold a 386 for $350 so I'll put up
with it.
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Have a nice day!..

"What is more likely, a miraculous virgin birth, or that a Jewish girl lied"
Clocky
2023-12-18 13:15:05 UTC
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Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Wow things have actually been going up, here's a slightly-rusty PC
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/304365040816
Even some CRT monitors are fetching $400+!
I'm not sure how people even think about posting those, except if
they still have the foam packing, but I guess they find ways. There
are interesting videos showing how CRT TV manufacturers tested
their packaging by dropping and vibrating the boxes.
Post by Clocky
A good place for selling stuff are the vintage computer groups on
facebook.
clocky which ones are they?
it's ok. I googled on fb. there are heaps of them!
Yeah I was away on a trip, sorry - but it looks like you found them :-)
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Mighty Mouse
Post by Clocky
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
I'm allergic to Facebook.
I don't like it either but I just sold a 386 for $350 so I'll put up
with it.
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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
Clocky
2023-12-07 00:48:19 UTC
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the entire exhaust system needed replacement, which was
one of the factors in deciding to upgrade to a new car.
You should have come over when you had your chance. I'm not
too bad with pipes :)
Not too bad with trumpets either - you're always blowing yours.
I bet most mechanics would love to have a 'shed' like his in
their back yard to play in tho
this is my 'play pen' .. https://auslink.info/pics/shed1.jpg
(part of it)
Very nice, Felix. I appreciate people who are well organised
and neat & tidy. It says a lot about their work ethics in my
opinion.
you're certainly in that category yourself
and this is where I produce the pearls of wisdom that appear here :)
https://auslink.info/pics/study.jpg
An interesting collection of vintage electronics :)
just as a matter of interest, keefy old stick, what is the basis
for your determination of them as 'vintage'? given that you cannot
know what is in those towers, but can only guess. one should not
judge a book by it's cover, as the saying goes. or do you consider
something to be vintage if it doesn't look like it came off the USS
Enterprise, complete with flashing neon lights and self levitation
properties? curios minds would like to know...
I have 4 towers, no, make that 5 if you include the Mac Pro. None
are younger than 12, most older - up to 20 years. All are pretty
much old hat. The only reason you would need a tower case nowadays
is if you were into gaming or the like and needed some heavy hitting
hardware - and the room to plug it in. I am not in that category, at
least not any more. Nowadays computers like the Mac Mini or laptops
suit my needs.
not interested in Macs, and I have a laptop but only use it when
traveling
Thing is, the Intel Macs can run Windows or Linux. I put Linux Mint on
the Mac Pro and on a 2011 vintage Mac Mini - works perfectly,
I have a dedicated Linx box running Mint ..
https://auslink.info/pics/linux_box.jpg
pity I don't really have a use for them any more.
I have a few leftovers :) .. https://auslink.info/pics/leftovers.jpg
btw, the beige box vertical on top of the pile is a totally fully
functional DOS Box running a 386 SX and ISA BUS. it must be an
historical relic now. wonder if it valuable as a collectors item?  :)
It has a value to collectors of vintage stuff sure, $100 - $200 any day
of the week.
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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
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