Discussion:
Cheapest 3G mobile deal
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Damian
2013-06-06 09:09:32 UTC
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Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
f***@deadspam.com
2013-06-06 11:55:51 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:09:32 +1000 Damian wrote:-
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing
on the fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Aldi not too bad, and uses Telstra 3G.
Rod Speed
2013-06-06 19:13:08 UTC
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Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
None of those in here, just us animals...
Post by Damian
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on
the fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
Yep, quite a few.

Worth looking at Aldi and Kogan currently.
Post by Damian
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
You don’t say what sort of volume you are talking about.

One trap is that if you use is lumpy, you can end up paying
more than just the $/MB you can see because of the credit
expiry time or have to pay quite a high upfront charge to
get something that lasts for a year.

Amaysim is also worth considering for some types of use.
And you don’t have to do that prepaid either.
Damian
2013-06-10 00:43:03 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
None of those in here, just us animals...
Yeah, I can see, specially you. ;-)
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on
the fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
Yep, quite a few.
Worth looking at Aldi and Kogan currently.
I went for Kogan 30 day data only 1 Gig deal.
Reception has been crappy from place to place. I mean even in metro areas.
Kogan mobile is using Vodafone, am I right?! And apparently he claims to use
Telstra where areas with bad reception, but I don't think he does.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
You don’t say what sort of volume you are talking about.
I'm hoping at least a gig a month.
That should be enough for occasional surfing while moving around in suburbs,
am I right?!
Post by Rod Speed
One trap is that if you use is lumpy, you can end up paying
more than just the $/MB you can see because of the credit
expiry time or have to pay quite a high upfront charge to
get something that lasts for a year.
Yeah, Kogan has $300 one year mobile plan.
I'm sceptical so far. Tried the data only 30 day plan.
It hasn't been great so far.
Post by Rod Speed
Amaysim is also worth considering for some types of use.
And you don’t have to do that prepaid either.
My smartphone says Kogan sim cars is not 3G!!!!
Is that right?!
Rod Speed
2013-06-10 06:44:32 UTC
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Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
None of those in here, just us animals...
Yeah, I can see, specially you. ;-)
Down, boy.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on
the fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
Yep, quite a few.
Worth looking at Aldi and Kogan currently.
I went for Kogan 30 day data only 1 Gig deal.
Reception has been crappy from place to place. I mean even in metro areas.
Kogan mobile is using Vodafone, am I right?!
No.
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/kogan_mobile
Post by Damian
And apparently he claims to use Telstra where areas with bad reception,
but I don't think he does.
Whirlpool claims he uses it everywhere.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
You don’t say what sort of volume you are talking about.
I'm hoping at least a gig a month.
That should be enough for occasional surfing while moving around in
suburbs, am I right?!
I have no idea what porn you go blind looking at
when doing that, but I certainly stay below 1G in
months when I don’t get any torrents. And that’s
my total use, not just when out and about.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
One trap is that if your use is lumpy, you can end up paying
more than just the $/MB you can see because of the credit
expiry time or have to pay quite a high upfront charge to
get something that lasts for a year.
Yeah, Kogan has $300 one year mobile plan.
Yeah, that’s what I meant, the sticker price is substantial.
Post by Damian
I'm sceptical so far. Tried the data only 30 day plan.
It hasn't been great so far.
It isnt great even with Telstra themselves.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Amaysim is also worth considering for some types of use.
And you don’t have to do that prepaid either.
My smartphone says Kogan sim cars is not 3G!!!!
Is that right?!
Not according to
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/kogan_mobile
Damian
2013-06-11 06:21:53 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
None of those in here, just us animals...
Yeah, I can see, specially you. ;-)
Down, boy.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on
the fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
Yep, quite a few.
Worth looking at Aldi and Kogan currently.
I went for Kogan 30 day data only 1 Gig deal.
Reception has been crappy from place to place. I mean even in metro areas.
Kogan mobile is using Vodafone, am I right?!
No.
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/kogan_mobile
Post by Damian
And apparently he claims to use Telstra where areas with bad reception,
but I don't think he does.
Whirlpool claims he uses it everywhere.
Yeah, I see it now.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
You don’t say what sort of volume you are talking about.
I'm hoping at least a gig a month.
That should be enough for occasional surfing while moving around in
suburbs, am I right?!
I have no idea what porn you go blind looking at
when doing that, but I certainly stay below 1G in
months when I don’t get any torrents. And that’s
my total use, not just when out and about.
Nope. I gave up on porn after years of getting nowhere with it.

In the meantime you switched to tranny porn after retirement, didn't you?!
;-)

No idea how you manage under 1Gig a month with your high internet usage.
Frigging webpages with all the advertisement banners these days consume lot
of downloads before you know it.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
One trap is that if your use is lumpy, you can end up paying
more than just the $/MB you can see because of the credit
expiry time or have to pay quite a high upfront charge to
get something that lasts for a year.
Yeah, Kogan has $300 one year mobile plan.
Yeah, that’s what I meant, the sticker price is substantial.
Or you can go for $30 a month, which appears to be the same deal. Cost extra
$60 over a year.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm sceptical so far. Tried the data only 30 day plan.
It hasn't been great so far.
It isnt great even with Telstra themselves.
Well, I didn't know that. I shouldn't blame the Jewish fella then, eh?!!
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Amaysim is also worth considering for some types of use.
And you don’t have to do that prepaid either.
My smartphone says Kogan sim cars is not 3G!!!!
Is that right?!
Not according to
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/kogan_mobile
Guessing, I may need to fiddle with the android settings more then.
Rod Speed
2013-06-12 10:48:32 UTC
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Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
None of those in here, just us animals...
Yeah, I can see, specially you. ;-)
Down, boy.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing
on the fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
Yep, quite a few.
Worth looking at Aldi and Kogan currently.
I went for Kogan 30 day data only 1 Gig deal.
Reception has been crappy from place to place. I mean even in metro areas.
Kogan mobile is using Vodafone, am I right?!
No.
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/kogan_mobile
Post by Damian
And apparently he claims to use Telstra where areas with bad reception,
but I don't think he does.
Whirlpool claims he uses it everywhere.
Yeah, I see it now.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
You don’t say what sort of volume you are talking about.
I'm hoping at least a gig a month.
That should be enough for occasional surfing while moving around in
suburbs, am I right?!
I have no idea what porn you go blind looking at
when doing that, but I certainly stay below 1G in
months when I don’t get any torrents. And that’s
my total use, not just when out and about.
Nope. I gave up on porn after years of getting nowhere with it.
In the meantime you switched to tranny porn after retirement, didn't you?!
;-)
No idea how you manage under 1Gig a month with your high internet usage.
Frigging webpages with all the advertisement banners these days consume
lot of downloads before you know it.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
One trap is that if your use is lumpy, you can end up paying
more than just the $/MB you can see because of the credit
expiry time or have to pay quite a high upfront charge to
get something that lasts for a year.
Yeah, Kogan has $300 one year mobile plan.
Yeah, that’s what I meant, the sticker price is substantial.
Or you can go for $30 a month, which appears to be the same deal. Cost
extra $60 over a year.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm sceptical so far. Tried the data only 30 day plan.
It hasn't been great so far.
It isnt great even with Telstra themselves.
Well, I didn't know that. I shouldn't blame the Jewish fella then, eh?!!
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Amaysim is also worth considering for some types of use.
And you don’t have to do that prepaid either.
My smartphone says Kogan sim cars is not 3G!!!!
Is that right?!
Not according to
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/kogan_mobile
Guessing, I may need to fiddle with the android settings more then.
I'd try it in a single sim android phone if you can borrow one.

It may just be some quirk of your dual sim phone.
Damian
2013-06-14 01:36:25 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
None of those in here, just us animals...
Yeah, I can see, specially you. ;-)
Down, boy.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing
on the fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
Yep, quite a few.
Worth looking at Aldi and Kogan currently.
I went for Kogan 30 day data only 1 Gig deal.
Reception has been crappy from place to place. I mean even in metro areas.
Kogan mobile is using Vodafone, am I right?!
No.
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/kogan_mobile
Post by Damian
And apparently he claims to use Telstra where areas with bad reception,
but I don't think he does.
Whirlpool claims he uses it everywhere.
Yeah, I see it now.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
You don’t say what sort of volume you are talking about.
I'm hoping at least a gig a month.
That should be enough for occasional surfing while moving around in
suburbs, am I right?!
I have no idea what porn you go blind looking at
when doing that, but I certainly stay below 1G in
months when I don’t get any torrents. And that’s
my total use, not just when out and about.
Nope. I gave up on porn after years of getting nowhere with it.
In the meantime you switched to tranny porn after retirement, didn't
you?! ;-)
No idea how you manage under 1Gig a month with your high internet usage.
Frigging webpages with all the advertisement banners these days consume
lot of downloads before you know it.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
One trap is that if your use is lumpy, you can end up paying
more than just the $/MB you can see because of the credit
expiry time or have to pay quite a high upfront charge to
get something that lasts for a year.
Yeah, Kogan has $300 one year mobile plan.
Yeah, that’s what I meant, the sticker price is substantial.
Or you can go for $30 a month, which appears to be the same deal. Cost
extra $60 over a year.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I'm sceptical so far. Tried the data only 30 day plan.
It hasn't been great so far.
It isnt great even with Telstra themselves.
Well, I didn't know that. I shouldn't blame the Jewish fella then, eh?!!
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Amaysim is also worth considering for some types of use.
And you don’t have to do that prepaid either.
My smartphone says Kogan sim cars is not 3G!!!!
Is that right?!
Not according to
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/kogan_mobile
Guessing, I may need to fiddle with the android settings more then.
I'd try it in a single sim android phone if you can borrow one.
It may just be some quirk of your dual sim phone.
Good point. I will try it on my old lady's phone.
Damian
2013-06-10 01:02:49 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
None of those in here, just us animals...
Post by Damian
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on
the fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
Yep, quite a few.
Worth looking at Aldi and Kogan currently.
Post by Damian
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
You don’t say what sort of volume you are talking about.
One trap is that if you use is lumpy, you can end up paying
more than just the $/MB you can see because of the credit
expiry time or have to pay quite a high upfront charge to
get something that lasts for a year.
Amaysim is also worth considering for some types of use.
And you don’t have to do that prepaid either.
Amaysim deal is pretty good. $10 is worth trying out.
Is there a similar deal with Telstra 3G network? Amasim apparently uses
Optus 3G network.
f***@deadspam.com
2013-06-10 06:10:16 UTC
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:02:49 +1000 Damian wrote:-
Post by Damian
Amaysim deal is pretty good. $10 is worth trying out.
Is there a similar deal with Telstra 3G network?
Aldi uses Telstra 3G
Rod Speed
2013-06-10 18:59:54 UTC
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Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
None of those in here, just us animals...
Post by Damian
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on
the fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
Yep, quite a few.
Worth looking at Aldi and Kogan currently.
Post by Damian
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
You don’t say what sort of volume you are talking about.
One trap is that if you use is lumpy, you can end up paying
more than just the $/MB you can see because of the credit
expiry time or have to pay quite a high upfront charge to
get something that lasts for a year.
Amaysim is also worth considering for some types of use.
And you don’t have to do that prepaid either.
Amaysim deal is pretty good. $10 is worth trying out.
Yeah, working pretty well for me currently.

One glitch is that while it has free facebook access, their system
does not count the access to facebook groups properly and you
do get charged for that use. But that will be fixed sometime.

The other problem is that they cannot itemise your data use
by web site or whatever so you have to take them on trust on
what they claim you have used.
Post by Damian
Is there a similar deal with Telstra 3G network?
Yes, Aldi and Kogan.
Post by Damian
Amasim apparently uses Optus 3G network.
Yes, and it shows as 3G on my iphone too.

https://www.amaysim.com.au/my-account/friends/529555
gets me $10
Petzl
2013-06-07 00:48:07 UTC
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Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile to connect to
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en

Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)

https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?

Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Petzl
2013-06-07 02:16:34 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile to connect to
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Just looked Aldi have a prepay $15 lasts 365 days to use
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#
Post by Petzl
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Damian
2013-06-10 00:46:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Petzl
2013-06-10 01:05:56 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?

The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes
first. Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Damian
2013-06-10 03:00:30 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro and also my
phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says
the Kogan simcard isn't 3G. I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same
phone, but that detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though. The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a non 3G
simcard?!!!
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes
first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Post by Petzl
Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
Post by Petzl
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Petzl
2013-06-10 03:27:42 UTC
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:00:30 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro and also my
phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says
the Kogan simcard isn't 3G. I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same
phone, but that detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though. The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a non 3G
simcard?!!!
Check your 3G device in
Settings
Mobile Network
Then
Access Point Names
or
Network operators (search)
Should be selecting telstra
Amaysm have a manual configuration for optus
http://www.amaysim.com.au/help-support/troubleshooting/how-do-I-set-up-internet-settings-for-my-android-device
Just replace Amaysim with who ever
my Aldi Tablet I had to set-up manually but with Android upgrade it
does it Automatically
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes
first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
You have to do the maths maybe ask "1300 989 000"
All on this page
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Data 5c / MB
Expiry 365 days
Cost $15 or $30
$15 divided by .05 cents
Equals 30,000 MB
or 29.2969 Gigabytes
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
Post by Petzl
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
--
Petzl
http://tinyurl.com/Abbotts-NBN-Plan
Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.
Rupert Murdoch tries to buy U.S. presidency
http://tinyurl.com/ab3y6nl
Federal Police investigating Murdoch http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/federal_police_join_news_probe_s0h2FfmrnzYD7dIbq8s04L
Murdoch hiring hackers to kill off opposition

In Australia Murdoch doing the same
http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM
Paul Keating's assessment of Rupert Murdoch as "a big bad bastard"
"Murdoch 'not fit' to run News Corp" < http://tinyurl.com/7njegk3 >
"Rupert Murdoch has let it be known within his organisation that Australia needs change in Canberra and his editors were simply doing his bidding"
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12041
Petzl
2013-06-10 03:43:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
You have to do the maths maybe ask "1300 989 000"
All on this page
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Data 5c / MB
Expiry 365 days
Cost $15 or $30
$15 divided by .05 cents
Equals 30,000 MB
or 29.2969 Gigabytes
A mistake sorry divide by 5 not 0.05
Gives a miserable
0.292969 Gigabytes
forget it/them
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Damian
2013-06-10 04:16:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
You have to do the maths maybe ask "1300 989 000"
All on this page
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Data 5c / MB
Expiry 365 days
Cost $15 or $30
$15 divided by .05 cents
Equals 30,000 MB
or 29.2969 Gigabytes
A mistake sorry divide by 5 not 0.05
Gives a miserable
0.292969 Gigabytes
forget it/them
They have 2GB a month $15 deal. Which isn't that bad at all.
Then for heavy users, 5GB a month with unlimited calls for $35 a month. I
say that's as good as Kogan unlimited deal or even better. ALDI obviously
uses Telstra 3G network. Dunno about Kogan though.
Post by Petzl
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I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Rod Speed
2013-06-10 19:28:50 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
You have to do the maths maybe ask "1300 989 000"
All on this page
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Data 5c / MB
Expiry 365 days
Cost $15 or $30
$15 divided by .05 cents
Equals 30,000 MB
or 29.2969 Gigabytes
A mistake sorry divide by 5 not 0.05
Gives a miserable
0.292969 Gigabytes
forget it/them
No, its still cheap with
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
But $15 for 2G
Damian
2013-06-10 03:58:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:00:30 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro and also my
phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says
the Kogan simcard isn't 3G. I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same
phone, but that detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though. The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a non 3G
simcard?!!!
Check your 3G device in
Settings
Mobile Network
Then
Access Point Names
or
Network operators (search)
Should be selecting telstra
Just checked Access Point Names. It's got "Telstra Internet" selected. And
the selection it says telstra.wap.
Does that sound right to you?!!!

When I first inserted the simcard(Kogan) and selected the simcard, a pop
message came and said 'the selected simcard is not 3G simcard, press ok to
select it anyway, etc, etc. So, that's what I did.
Then I fiddled with settings as you pointed above to make sure the simcard's
3G features are activated.
Funny thing is same phone has Savvytel Optus 3G simcard which detects as 3G
without having to interfere with the settings, but Kogan's simcard didn't
and
caused the phone to pop the message that it isn't 3G.
I'm thinking it may the simcard??!!!!
I'm going to do bit of travelling again later today in the areas I didn't
get good reception and see if it's the same.
Post by Petzl
Amaysm have a manual configuration for optus
http://www.amaysim.com.au/help-support/troubleshooting/how-do-I-set-up-internet-settings-for-my-android-device
Just replace Amaysim with who ever
my Aldi Tablet I had to set-up manually but with Android upgrade it
does it Automatically
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes
first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
You have to do the maths maybe ask "1300 989 000"
All on this page
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Data 5c / MB
Expiry 365 days
Cost $15 or $30
$15 divided by .05 cents
Equals 30,000 MB
or 29.2969 Gigabytes
Ah... you made a mistake. $15 / 0.05 = 300.

So, you get 300 MB for the $15.

Not a lot for $15. But, it may be a value for somebody who surfs the net
once a month on the fly with their tablet or smartphone and
wants the credit to last for a whole year. Also, ALDI simcard isn't data
only, it can be used for direct mobile phone calls as well, so it's still
good.

ALDI has been pretty crafty with their deal, just like all other mobile
service providers. :))
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
Post by Petzl
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
--
Petzl
http://tinyurl.com/Abbotts-NBN-Plan
Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to
his pay TV interests.
Rupert Murdoch tries to buy U.S. presidency
http://tinyurl.com/ab3y6nl
Federal Police investigating Murdoch
http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/federal_police_join_news_probe_s0h2FfmrnzYD7dIbq8s04L
Murdoch hiring hackers to kill off opposition
http://youtu.be/nNAsnY1Pbj8
In Australia Murdoch doing the same
http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM
Paul Keating's assessment of Rupert Murdoch as "a big bad bastard"
"Murdoch 'not fit' to run News Corp" < http://tinyurl.com/7njegk3 >
"Rupert Murdoch has let it be known within his organisation that Australia
needs change in Canberra and his editors were simply doing his bidding"
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12041
Petzl
2013-06-10 04:51:00 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:58:17 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Just checked Access Point Names. It's got "Telstra Internet" selected. And
the selection it says telstra.wap.
Does that sound right to you?!!!
No? This is a obsolete Internet setting you have set in some past life
Something to do with your phone settings (I think) remember this years
ago to get Internet you had to set a "wap" I think it's a proxy
probably no longer works you need to remove sim, reset phone to
default (save phone numbers somehow)
Probably OK after that and re-inserting SIM card see what it says
The phone not "locked" is it?
Post by Damian
When I first inserted the simcard(Kogan) and selected the simcard, a pop
message came and said 'the selected simcard is not 3G simcard, press ok to
select it anyway, etc, etc. So, that's what I did.
Then I fiddled with settings as you pointed above to make sure the simcard's
3G features are activated.
Funny thing is same phone has Savvytel Optus 3G simcard which detects as 3G
without having to interfere with the settings, but Kogan's simcard didn't
and
caused the phone to pop the message that it isn't 3G.
I'm thinking it may the simcard??!!!!
I'm going to do bit of travelling again later today in the areas I didn't
get good reception and see if it's the same.
Sounds like Kogan the deal is NOT for 3G but 2G?
Ask for refund if true
This is set by your access point/provider
If you have 3G you can go down to 2G to save battery but if 2G you
can't go up. But you can try?
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Amaysm have a manual configuration for optus
http://www.amaysim.com.au/help-support/troubleshooting/how-do-I-set-up-internet-settings-for-my-android-device
Just replace Amaysim with who ever
my Aldi Tablet I had to set-up manually but with Android upgrade it
does it Automatically
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes
first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
You have to do the maths maybe ask "1300 989 000"
All on this page
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Data 5c / MB
Expiry 365 days
Cost $15 or $30
$15 divided by .05 cents
Equals 30,000 MB
or 29.2969 Gigabytes
Ah... you made a mistake. $15 / 0.05 = 300.
So, you get 300 MB for the $15.
Not a lot for $15. But, it may be a value for somebody who surfs the net
once a month on the fly with their tablet or smartphone and
wants the credit to last for a whole year.
Also, ALDI simcard isn't data only, it can be used for direct mobile phone calls as well, so it's still
good.
AFAIK they all can be used both for Data and calls
Post by Damian
ALDI has been pretty crafty with their deal, just like all other mobile
service providers. :))
That's about what I use a month (300) in Sydney open WiFi point's are
many so it mostly by passes mobile data and does this Automaticly.
Though the "Bounce Hotel" I used on Central's platform 23 now have it
as pay for! Seems people may read this usernet?
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Damian
2013-06-11 06:39:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:58:17 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Just checked Access Point Names. It's got "Telstra Internet" selected. And
the selection it says telstra.wap.
Does that sound right to you?!!!
No? This is a obsolete Internet setting you have set in some past life
Something to do with your phone settings (I think) remember this years
ago to get Internet you had to set a "wap" I think it's a proxy
probably no longer works you need to remove sim, reset phone to
default (save phone numbers somehow)
Probably OK after that and re-inserting SIM card see what it says
The phone not "locked" is it?
No, it can't be locked. I got it from ALDI couple of weeks ago. It's brand
new.
You know the Bauhn smartphone ALDI advertised lately?! That's the one I got.
But, it's pretty good at my joint though. It's that it gets crappy in some
suburban locations.
I will try bit more fiddling and resetting the phone as well.
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
When I first inserted the simcard(Kogan) and selected the simcard, a pop
message came and said 'the selected simcard is not 3G simcard, press ok to
select it anyway, etc, etc. So, that's what I did.
Then I fiddled with settings as you pointed above to make sure the simcard's
3G features are activated.
Funny thing is same phone has Savvytel Optus 3G simcard which detects as 3G
without having to interfere with the settings, but Kogan's simcard didn't
and
caused the phone to pop the message that it isn't 3G.
I'm thinking it may the simcard??!!!!
I'm going to do bit of travelling again later today in the areas I didn't
get good reception and see if it's the same.
Sounds like Kogan the deal is NOT for 3G but 2G?
Ask for refund if true
This is set by your access point/provider
If you have 3G you can go down to 2G to save battery but if 2G you
can't go up. But you can try?
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Amaysm have a manual configuration for optus
http://www.amaysim.com.au/help-support/troubleshooting/how-do-I-set-up-internet-settings-for-my-android-device
Just replace Amaysim with who ever
my Aldi Tablet I had to set-up manually but with Android upgrade it
does it Automatically
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes
first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
You have to do the maths maybe ask "1300 989 000"
All on this page
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Data 5c / MB
Expiry 365 days
Cost $15 or $30
$15 divided by .05 cents
Equals 30,000 MB
or 29.2969 Gigabytes
Ah... you made a mistake. $15 / 0.05 = 300.
So, you get 300 MB for the $15.
Not a lot for $15. But, it may be a value for somebody who surfs the net
once a month on the fly with their tablet or smartphone and
wants the credit to last for a whole year.
Also, ALDI simcard isn't data only, it can be used for direct mobile
phone calls as well, so it's still
good.
AFAIK they all can be used both for Data and calls
Post by Damian
ALDI has been pretty crafty with their deal, just like all other mobile
service providers. :))
That's about what I use a month (300) in Sydney open WiFi point's are
many so it mostly by passes mobile data and does this Automaticly.
Though the "Bounce Hotel" I used on Central's platform 23 now have it
as pay for! Seems people may read this usernet?
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Petzl
2013-06-11 09:09:24 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:39:39 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
No? This is a obsolete Internet setting you have set in some past life
Something to do with your phone settings (I think) remember this years
ago to get Internet you had to set a "wap" I think it's a proxy
probably no longer works you need to remove sim, reset phone to
default (save phone numbers somehow)
Probably OK after that and re-inserting SIM card see what it says
The phone not "locked" is it?
No, it can't be locked. I got it from ALDI couple of weeks ago. It's brand
new.
You know the Bauhn smartphone ALDI advertised lately?! That's the one I got.
But, it's pretty good at my joint though. It's that it gets crappy in some
suburban locations.
I will try bit more fiddling and resetting the phone as well.
Aldi stuff I find mostly good
Sounds like someone has "preconfigured" it with outdated info?
what version of Android?
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Damian
2013-06-11 13:31:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:39:39 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
No? This is a obsolete Internet setting you have set in some past life
Something to do with your phone settings (I think) remember this years
ago to get Internet you had to set a "wap" I think it's a proxy
probably no longer works you need to remove sim, reset phone to
default (save phone numbers somehow)
Probably OK after that and re-inserting SIM card see what it says
The phone not "locked" is it?
No, it can't be locked. I got it from ALDI couple of weeks ago. It's brand
new.
You know the Bauhn smartphone ALDI advertised lately?! That's the one I got.
But, it's pretty good at my joint though. It's that it gets crappy in some
suburban locations.
I will try bit more fiddling and resetting the phone as well.
Aldi stuff I find mostly good
Sounds like someone has "preconfigured" it with outdated info?
what version of Android?
Jelly Beans. 4.1
Post by Petzl
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I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Fred
2013-06-10 05:32:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Damian
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro and also my
phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says
the Kogan simcard isn't 3G. I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same
phone, but that detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though. The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a non 3G
simcard?!!!
With some dual sim handsets you will find that while both can be active
one slot will be 2G and the other 3G exclusively.
Kogan use ISPONE who are resellers of part of the Telstra network.
https://www.koganmobile.com.au/about-us


ISPOne ordered to pay Kogan Mobile damages
Telstra Mobile Reseller ISPOne was in breach of its obligations to Kogan
Mobile for suspending the telco's customers who were deemed to be
overusing the "unlimited" service, the Victorian Supreme Court has ruled.
http://www.zdnet.com/au/ispone-ordered-to-pay-kogan-mobile-damages-7000014796/
Damian
2013-06-11 11:17:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fred
Post by Damian
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro and also my
phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says
the Kogan simcard isn't 3G. I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same
phone, but that detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though. The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a non 3G
simcard?!!!
With some dual sim handsets you will find that while both can be active
one slot will be 2G and the other 3G exclusively.
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Post by Fred
Kogan use ISPONE who are resellers of part of the Telstra network.
https://www.koganmobile.com.au/about-us
ISPOne ordered to pay Kogan Mobile damages
Telstra Mobile Reseller ISPOne was in breach of its obligations to Kogan
Mobile for suspending the telco's customers who were deemed to be
overusing the "unlimited" service, the Victorian Supreme Court has ruled.
http://www.zdnet.com/au/ispone-ordered-to-pay-kogan-mobile-damages-7000014796/
Petzl
2013-06-11 23:21:16 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 21:17:13 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Fred
With some dual sim handsets you will find that while both can be active
one slot will be 2G and the other 3G exclusively.
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Sounds to me like Fred has pegged it
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Damian
2013-06-14 01:34:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 21:17:13 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Fred
With some dual sim handsets you will find that while both can be active
one slot will be 2G and the other 3G exclusively.
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Sounds to me like Fred has pegged it
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
I fiddled with the settings. And I ddin't swap the simcards.
Looks like I've inserted simcards correctly in the dual sim phone.
Sim 1 WCDMA/GSM --> Kogan Telstra sim
Sim 2 GSM ---> Savvytel Optus sim

Default sim is Kogan one.

However, I somehow got it to work at the location that I was getting bad
reception before. Dunno whether I fixed it or bad reception problem there
fixed itself.
Damian
2013-06-14 01:40:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 21:17:13 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Fred
With some dual sim handsets you will find that while both can be active
one slot will be 2G and the other 3G exclusively.
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Sounds to me like Fred has pegged it
Forgot to say, even though I got the reception to work and internet speed
appears to be fine. I couldn't get Skype to work. By that I mean, Skype was
logged in fine, but when I ring another number from Skype to see if it
works, Skype connect the call and I hear the ring tone in skype, but the
actual phone being called doesn't ring at all. It may be skype issue
though. I'm still working on it.

Basically what I want is that Skype to work nicely anywhere where the 3G
reception is good, so people can call me on skype(local number) and I vice
versa.
Post by Petzl
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Petzl
2013-06-14 01:48:59 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:40:29 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Sounds to me like Fred has pegged it
Forgot to say, even though I got the reception to work and internet speed
appears to be fine. I couldn't get Skype to work. By that I mean, Skype was
logged in fine, but when I ring another number from Skype to see if it
works, Skype connect the call and I hear the ring tone in skype, but the
actual phone being called doesn't ring at all. It may be skype issue
though. I'm still working on it.
Basically what I want is that Skype to work nicely anywhere where the 3G
reception is good, so people can call me on skype(local number) and I vice
versa.
Skype has problems with some mobiles but not all?
See if you can get an older program usually screen size is a problem
but if you aren't using video ?
Didn't work on Iphone 5 a while ago
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Petzl
2013-06-14 03:16:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:40:29 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Sounds to me like Fred has pegged it
Forgot to say, even though I got the reception to work and internet speed
appears to be fine. I couldn't get Skype to work. By that I mean, Skype was
logged in fine, but when I ring another number from Skype to see if it
works, Skype connect the call and I hear the ring tone in skype, but the
actual phone being called doesn't ring at all. It may be skype issue
though. I'm still working on it.
Basically what I want is that Skype to work nicely anywhere where the 3G
reception is good, so people can call me on skype(local number) and I vice
versa.
Skype has problems with some mobiles but not all?
See if you can get an older program usually screen size is a problem
but if you aren't using video ?
Didn't work on Iphone 5 a while ago
If you go here it will tell you if Skype is compatable for your device
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=skype
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Damian
2013-06-14 03:42:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:40:29 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Sounds to me like Fred has pegged it
Forgot to say, even though I got the reception to work and internet speed
appears to be fine. I couldn't get Skype to work. By that I mean, Skype was
logged in fine, but when I ring another number from Skype to see if it
works, Skype connect the call and I hear the ring tone in skype, but the
actual phone being called doesn't ring at all. It may be skype issue
though. I'm still working on it.
Basically what I want is that Skype to work nicely anywhere where the 3G
reception is good, so people can call me on skype(local number) and I vice
versa.
Skype has problems with some mobiles but not all?
See if you can get an older program usually screen size is a problem
but if you aren't using video ?
Didn't work on Iphone 5 a while ago
If you go here it will tell you if Skype is compatable for your device
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=skype
Couldn't find any direct links there to do that.
Post by Petzl
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I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Petzl
2013-06-14 05:19:31 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:42:20 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Petzl
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=skype
Just go to
https://play.google.com and search Skype
You may need to "sign-up"
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Damian
2013-06-14 03:40:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:40:29 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Sounds to me like Fred has pegged it
Forgot to say, even though I got the reception to work and internet speed
appears to be fine. I couldn't get Skype to work. By that I mean, Skype was
logged in fine, but when I ring another number from Skype to see if it
works, Skype connect the call and I hear the ring tone in skype, but the
actual phone being called doesn't ring at all. It may be skype issue
though. I'm still working on it.
Basically what I want is that Skype to work nicely anywhere where the 3G
reception is good, so people can call me on skype(local number) and I vice
versa.
Skype has problems with some mobiles but not all?
No video at all.
I just use it as a local phone calls, both incoming and outgoing, as my
local phone number is basically skype.
Post by Petzl
See if you can get an older program usually screen size is a problem
but if you aren't using video ?
Didn't work on Iphone 5 a while ago
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Rod Speed
2013-06-14 10:52:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:40:29 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Sounds to me like Fred has pegged it
Forgot to say, even though I got the reception to work and internet speed
appears to be fine. I couldn't get Skype to work. By that I mean, Skype was
logged in fine, but when I ring another number from Skype to see if it
works, Skype connect the call and I hear the ring tone in skype, but the
actual phone being called doesn't ring at all. It may be skype issue
though. I'm still working on it.
Basically what I want is that Skype to work nicely anywhere where the 3G
reception is good, so people can call me on skype(local number) and I vice
versa.
Skype has problems with some mobiles but not all?
See if you can get an older program usually screen size is a problem
but if you aren't using video ?
Didn't work on Iphone 5 a while ago
Works fine now.
Damian
2013-06-14 14:30:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:40:29 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Sounds to me like Fred has pegged it
Forgot to say, even though I got the reception to work and internet speed
appears to be fine. I couldn't get Skype to work. By that I mean, Skype was
logged in fine, but when I ring another number from Skype to see if it
works, Skype connect the call and I hear the ring tone in skype, but the
actual phone being called doesn't ring at all. It may be skype issue
though. I'm still working on it.
Basically what I want is that Skype to work nicely anywhere where the 3G
reception is good, so people can call me on skype(local number) and I vice
versa.
Skype has problems with some mobiles but not all?
See if you can get an older program usually screen size is a problem
but if you aren't using video ?
Didn't work on Iphone 5 a while ago
Works fine now.
Works fine for me if I use my local wifi at home. I want it to work with 3G
without hiccups. Bit, too much to ask with current 3G, you reckon??!!
Rod Speed
2013-06-14 20:36:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:40:29 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
I think that may be where I got it wrong.
I put the Kogan sim in the wrong slot?!
I'm onto that right now.
Sounds to me like Fred has pegged it
Forgot to say, even though I got the reception to work and internet speed
appears to be fine. I couldn't get Skype to work. By that I mean, Skype was
logged in fine, but when I ring another number from Skype to see if it
works, Skype connect the call and I hear the ring tone in skype, but the
actual phone being called doesn't ring at all. It may be skype issue
though. I'm still working on it.
Basically what I want is that Skype to work nicely anywhere where the 3G
reception is good, so people can call me on skype(local number) and I vice
versa.
Skype has problems with some mobiles but not all?
See if you can get an older program usually screen size is a problem
but if you aren't using video ?
Didn't work on Iphone 5 a while ago
Works fine now.
Works fine for me if I use my local wifi at home. I want it to work with
3G without hiccups. Bit, too much to ask with current 3G, you reckon??!!
Nar, works fine most of the time. Audio only obviously.

Can garble the audio badly at times tho.

Got the same thing with the driver downloads over 3G, very lumpy indeed.

And that’s with Telstra 3G too, so it cant be Telstra playing
funny buggers with the resellers like Aldi and Kogan either.
Petzl
2013-06-15 01:54:27 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:30:13 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Works fine now.
Works fine for me if I use my local wifi at home. I want it to work with 3G
without hiccups. Bit, too much to ask with current 3G, you reckon??!!
Does your Mobile give you signal mine does go from 3G to H+ depending
where I go to make a Skype call I try to head for a open WiFi but
seems to work well using my Data
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Damian
2013-06-18 11:37:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:30:13 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Works fine now.
Works fine for me if I use my local wifi at home. I want it to work with 3G
without hiccups. Bit, too much to ask with current 3G, you reckon??!!
Does your Mobile give you signal mine does go from 3G to H+ depending
where I go to make a Skype call I try to head for a open WiFi but
seems to work well using my Data
I haven't seen that yet. It's usually reception bar with letter E showing
right next(on the top) of it.
Post by Petzl
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Rod Speed
2013-06-10 19:24:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
Post by Damian
and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Post by Damian
I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects as
3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
Post by Damian
The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Post by Damian
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a non
3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15 for 3
gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Post by Damian
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
Post by Petzl
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Damian
2013-06-11 11:25:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing
on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
Post by Damian
and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or hardware
issues with this smartphone.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects as
3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
Post by Damian
The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a non
3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15 for
3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before you know
it.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
Post by Petzl
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Rod Speed
2013-06-12 11:03:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:09:32 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing
on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
Post by Damian
and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects as
3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
Post by Damian
The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.

The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.

And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.

So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.

Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.

So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.

So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.

Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.

Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.

So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.

Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a non
3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15 for
3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
Post by Damian
It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year. Probably
good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before you
know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
Post by Petzl
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Petzl
2013-06-12 11:48:43 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:03:34 +1000, "Rod Speed"
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
WiFi hasnothing to do with Amaysim?
My Samsung tells me when there is a open WiFi (like Hungry Jacks
McDonads) and *if* any good I lock it in. The phone gives preference
to WiFi. Just makesure WiFi is turned on in set-up? It will remember
and go there over mobile data
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Petzl
2013-06-12 12:02:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:03:34 +1000, "Rod Speed"
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
WiFi hasnothing to do with Amaysim?
My Samsung tells me when there is a open WiFi (like Hungry Jacks
McDonads) and *if* any good I lock it in. The phone gives preference
to WiFi. Just makesure WiFi is turned on in set-up? It will remember
and go there over mobile data
It maybe that turning off device may not start WiFi automatically
This happens to me with Skype if I turn my mobile off I have to
restart Skype

I find my Skype number on my mobile data, clearer, two way, cheaper
and better than dialing it through Amaysim "normal Optus" link.

I want it always on when connected. Used to do this after "upgrades"
it stopped automatic reconnection?
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Rod Speed
2013-06-12 18:05:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Petzl
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
WiFi hasnothing to do with Amaysim?
My Samsung tells me when there is a open WiFi (like Hungry Jacks
McDonads) and *if* any good I lock it in. The phone gives preference
to WiFi. Just makesure WiFi is turned on in set-up? It will remember
and go there over mobile data
It maybe that turning off device may not start WiFi automatically
It does with the iphone.
Post by Petzl
This happens to me with Skype if I turn
my mobile off I have to restart Skype
With the iphone you have to reboot it to have
it not come back auto when you turn it on again.
Post by Petzl
I find my Skype number on my mobile data, clearer, two way, cheaper
and better than dialing it through Amaysim "normal Optus" link.
I did have a mate of mine call me back from Perth using his MyNetFone
voip softphone on his smartphone, likely his Sony Xperia to my landline.
The quality was pretty bad. Apparently the Skype quality is much better
when he is talking to his wife that way.

One quirk with the MyNetFone app on the iphone is that when used in
speakerphone mode, what I normally use all the time, the called party gets
a pretty bad echo that goes away when its not in speakerphone mode.

I like that app because its got a very handy record function which
can be handy when buying stuff so you can light a fire under their
arse when they cant deliver what they said something can do over
the phone. None of the other voip apps do the record so conveniently
tho I haven't had much of a look at the alternatives yet tho, just did
a quick google on voip clients and record.

Haven't gotten around to trying Skype myself yet on the iphone.
Post by Petzl
I want it always on when connected. Used to do this
after "upgrades" it stopped automatic reconnection?
Yeah, that's the other big downside with the androids.
Damian
2013-06-14 01:14:36 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Petzl
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:03:34 +1000, "Rod Speed"
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
WiFi hasnothing to do with Amaysim?
My Samsung tells me when there is a open WiFi (like Hungry Jacks
McDonads) and *if* any good I lock it in. The phone gives preference
to WiFi. Just makesure WiFi is turned on in set-up? It will remember
and go there over mobile data
It maybe that turning off device may not start WiFi automatically
This happens to me with Skype if I turn my mobile off I have to
restart Skype
Skype android should have a setting for auto reconnection??!!
Apparently not!
There's an open source kinda version of skype with more settings and choice
to change ring tone, etc.
But, my smarphone is incompatible with that app.
May be your samsung can handle it. Give it a go.
Post by Petzl
I find my Skype number on my mobile data, clearer, two way, cheaper
and better than dialing it through Amaysim "normal Optus" link.
I want it always on when connected. Used to do this after "upgrades"
it stopped automatic reconnection?
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Petzl
2013-06-14 01:38:06 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:14:36 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
It maybe that turning off device may not start WiFi automatically
This happens to me with Skype if I turn my mobile off I have to
restart Skype
Skype android should have a setting for auto reconnection??!!
Apparently not!
There's an open source kinda version of skype with more settings and choice
to change ring tone, etc.
But, my smarphone is incompatible with that app.
May be your samsung can handle it. Give it a go.
I have both a Android Tablet and a Samsung Note 2 "Phablet"
On *boot* 2 years ago Skype did reconnect now it don't
Not a problem so much with phone it's always on.
Though some Android upgrages require a re-boot then I have to remember
to reconnect Skype.
I've paid the $80 PA for a Skype number clarity is better than what I
get through a mobile number (so far)
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Damian
2013-06-14 03:49:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:14:36 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
It maybe that turning off device may not start WiFi automatically
This happens to me with Skype if I turn my mobile off I have to
restart Skype
Skype android should have a setting for auto reconnection??!!
Apparently not!
There's an open source kinda version of skype with more settings and choice
to change ring tone, etc.
But, my smarphone is incompatible with that app.
May be your samsung can handle it. Give it a go.
I have both a Android Tablet and a Samsung Note 2 "Phablet"
On *boot* 2 years ago Skype did reconnect now it don't
One of my tablets are actually the ALDI Bauhn android 3G phablet.
Skype works fine in both of them, but that usually the home wifi.
I haven't tried the ALDI 3G phablet as a 3G phone, yet.
Post by Petzl
Not a problem so much with phone it's always on.
Though some Android upgrages require a re-boot then I have to remember
to reconnect Skype.
I've paid the $80 PA for a Skype number clarity is better than what I
get through a mobile number (so far)
Yeah, I've been using Skype local number with subscription for eight years.
It's dirt cheap and does the job for me.
If I can get Skype to work over 3G connection on my adroid phone, then
it goes even further as a very useful service for me.
Post by Petzl
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Rod Speed
2013-06-14 10:47:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:14:36 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
It maybe that turning off device may not start WiFi automatically
This happens to me with Skype if I turn my mobile off I have to
restart Skype
Skype android should have a setting for auto reconnection??!!
Apparently not!
There's an open source kinda version of skype with more settings and choice
to change ring tone, etc.
But, my smarphone is incompatible with that app.
May be your samsung can handle it. Give it a go.
I have both a Android Tablet and a Samsung Note 2 "Phablet"
On *boot* 2 years ago Skype did reconnect now it don't
Not a problem so much with phone it's always on.
Though some Android upgrages require a re-boot then I have to remember
to reconnect Skype.
I've paid the $80 PA for a Skype number
Doesn't cost anything like that with the MyNetFone Whirlpool offer.
Post by Petzl
clarity is better than what I get
through a mobile number (so far)
Yeah, clarity is excellent, but with very pronounced garbling
of the conversations that you don't get with MNF.

MNF is close to unusable in speakerphone mode
on the iphone tho, the called party gets very bad echo.

You can use any voip client you like tho, haven't had
a chance to try alternatives yet tho with the DSL
down and getting the iphone 3G wifi hotspot up.
Petzl
2013-06-14 11:07:38 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:47:19 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
I have both a Android Tablet and a Samsung Note 2 "Phablet"
On *boot* 2 years ago Skype did reconnect now it don't
Not a problem so much with phone it's always on.
Though some Android upgrages require a re-boot then I have to remember
to reconnect Skype.
I've paid the $80 PA for a Skype number
Doesn't cost anything like that with the MyNetFone Whirlpool offer.
Yes but for me a overseas contacts, more have Skype and as with most
VOIP to VOIP callers of same provider it's free!
Secondly the quality of Skype is second to none. In fact the quality
is better than a mobile phone call minus the cost.
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Rod Speed
2013-06-14 20:29:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
I have both a Android Tablet and a Samsung Note 2 "Phablet"
On *boot* 2 years ago Skype did reconnect now it don't
Not a problem so much with phone it's always on.
Though some Android upgrages require a re-boot then I have to remember
to reconnect Skype.
I've paid the $80 PA for a Skype number
Doesn't cost anything like that with the MyNetFone Whirlpool offer.
Yes but for me a overseas contacts, more have Skype and
as with most VOIP to VOIP callers of same provider it's free!
But it isnt one or the other, the other obvious
approach is to use both, which is what I do.
Post by Petzl
Secondly the quality of Skype is second to none.
In fact its much worse than MNF with the garbling of the audio.
Post by Petzl
In fact the quality is better than a mobile phone call minus the cost.
Only when it doesn't garble the audio.
Petzl
2013-06-15 02:08:00 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 06:29:19 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
I have both a Android Tablet and a Samsung Note 2 "Phablet"
On *boot* 2 years ago Skype did reconnect now it don't
Not a problem so much with phone it's always on.
Though some Android upgrages require a re-boot then I have to remember
to reconnect Skype.
I've paid the $80 PA for a Skype number
Doesn't cost anything like that with the MyNetFone Whirlpool offer.
Yes but for me a overseas contacts, more have Skype and
as with most VOIP to VOIP callers of same provider it's free!
But it isnt one or the other, the other obvious
approach is to use both, which is what I do.
Still get calls on my normal mobile
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Secondly the quality of Skype is second to none.
In fact its much worse than MNF with the garbling of the audio.
Not yet struck Garbling?
Used to always on a broken Internet connect, but since fixed I
purchased my Samsung "Phablet" and no troubles. This is the first
phone I've been able to install Skype on.

Don't bother to try and make calls on it around Holsworthy army base
East Hills rail though, as it's a mobile black spot has been since
they got rid of analogue
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
In fact the quality is better than a mobile phone call minus the cost.
Only when it doesn't garble the audio.
Seems where I go has good Optus/Amaysim reception, so not yet getting
it. Knock wood. Mobile to mobile I find only allows one way
transmission (calling "3 network" I notice this most on)
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Rod Speed
2013-06-15 05:19:00 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
I have both a Android Tablet and a Samsung Note 2 "Phablet"
On *boot* 2 years ago Skype did reconnect now it don't
Not a problem so much with phone it's always on.
Though some Android upgrages require a re-boot then I have to remember
to reconnect Skype.
I've paid the $80 PA for a Skype number
Doesn't cost anything like that with the MyNetFone Whirlpool offer.
Yes but for me a overseas contacts, more have Skype and
as with most VOIP to VOIP callers of same provider it's free!
But it isnt one or the other, the other obvious
approach is to use both, which is what I do.
Still get calls on my normal mobile
Sure, so three, not just one.
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
Secondly the quality of Skype is second to none.
In fact its much worse than MNF with the garbling of the audio.
Not yet struck Garbling?
Likely you just don't recognise the wording.

You just get large chunks of the audio missing.
Post by Petzl
Used to always on a broken Internet connect, but since
fixed I purchased my Samsung "Phablet" and no troubles.
Using wifi presumably. I can't try that currently with the DSL still down.
Post by Petzl
This is the first phone I've been able to install Skype on.
I didn't try very hard with the N95 8GB, it was easier
to use voip on that since it has a built in voip client.
That did work very well over wifi.
Post by Petzl
Don't bother to try and make calls on it around Holsworthy
army base East Hills rail though, as it's a mobile black spot
has been since they got rid of analogue
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
In fact the quality is better than a mobile phone call minus the cost.
Only when it doesn't garble the audio.
Seems where I go has good Optus/Amaysim
reception, so not yet getting it. Knock wood.
That was with the Telstra sim, haven't
tried it with the Optus/Amaysim yet.

Might even have been at his end too, not mine.
He was in Perth, forget where he's at sim wise now.
The current Southern Cross Mobile which I think is
Telstra.
Post by Petzl
Mobile to mobile I find only allows one way transmission
(calling "3 network" I notice this most on)
Didn't get that myself.
Damian
2013-06-14 14:39:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:14:36 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
It maybe that turning off device may not start WiFi automatically
This happens to me with Skype if I turn my mobile off I have to
restart Skype
Skype android should have a setting for auto reconnection??!!
Apparently not!
There's an open source kinda version of skype with more settings and choice
to change ring tone, etc.
But, my smarphone is incompatible with that app.
May be your samsung can handle it. Give it a go.
I have both a Android Tablet and a Samsung Note 2 "Phablet"
On *boot* 2 years ago Skype did reconnect now it don't
Not a problem so much with phone it's always on.
Though some Android upgrages require a re-boot then I have to remember
to reconnect Skype.
I've paid the $80 PA for a Skype number
Doesn't cost anything like that with the MyNetFone Whirlpool offer.
Skype cost me just over $5 a month. That includes local number, local and
national phone calls(unlimited), voicemail, and few other bits and pieces of
stuff.
MNF Whirlfool offer is a good, but I'm not sure how good is their softphone
to use with 3G on the fly though.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
clarity is better than what I get
through a mobile number (so far)
Yeah, clarity is excellent, but with very pronounced garbling
of the conversations that you don't get with MNF.
MNF is close to unusable in speakerphone mode
on the iphone tho, the called party gets very bad echo.
It may worth finding why the speakerphone does that!
Is that the typical feedback issue??!! with speaker and microphones too
close?!! I guess not.
I get the echo effect with skype and sometimes with MNF regardless of
whether I use the speakerphone or the headset.
But, that's not with smartphones though.
Post by Rod Speed
You can use any voip client you like tho, haven't had
a chance to try alternatives yet tho with the DSL
down and getting the iphone 3G wifi hotspot up.
How long has it been down for?!!!
Rod Speed
2013-06-14 20:44:16 UTC
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Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:14:36 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
It maybe that turning off device may not start WiFi automatically
This happens to me with Skype if I turn my mobile off I have to
restart Skype
Skype android should have a setting for auto reconnection??!!
Apparently not!
There's an open source kinda version of skype with more settings and choice
to change ring tone, etc.
But, my smarphone is incompatible with that app.
May be your samsung can handle it. Give it a go.
I have both a Android Tablet and a Samsung Note 2 "Phablet"
On *boot* 2 years ago Skype did reconnect now it don't
Not a problem so much with phone it's always on.
Though some Android upgrages require a re-boot then I have to remember
to reconnect Skype.
I've paid the $80 PA for a Skype number
Doesn't cost anything like that with the MyNetFone Whirlpool offer.
Skype cost me just over $5 a month. That includes local number, local and
national phone calls(unlimited), voicemail, and few other bits and pieces
of stuff.
I haven't bothered with that route because MNF costs me nothing per month.
Post by Damian
MNF Whirlfool offer is a good, but I'm not sure how good is their
softphone to use with 3G on the fly though.
Its fine if you don’t use the speakerphone function.

And is very convenient to record the conversation too.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
clarity is better than what I get
through a mobile number (so far)
Yeah, clarity is excellent, but with very pronounced garbling
of the conversations that you don't get with MNF.
MNF is close to unusable in speakerphone mode
on the iphone tho, the called party gets very bad echo.
It may worth finding why the speakerphone does that!
Is that the typical feedback issue??!! with speaker and microphones too
close?!! I guess not.
No, its at the OTHER end of the phone call.
Post by Damian
I get the echo effect with skype and sometimes with MNF regardless of
whether I use the speakerphone or the headset.
I never use a headset, its either the phone in speakerphone mode or not.

But you only get the problem with the iphone app,
not when you use an ATA or voip capable router.
Post by Damian
But, that's not with smartphones though.
I only use an ATA when not using the iphone.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
You can use any voip client you like tho, haven't had a chance to try
alternatives yet tho with the DSL
down and getting the iphone 3G wifi hotspot up.
How long has it been down for?!!!
Went down very early monday morning, 4am.
Came back 16:30 tuesday.
Down again 6:30am Wed
Came back for a very short time in the middle of
the afternoon Thursday and I managed to hit the
disconnect button accidentally. Still down even now.

The tech is sposed to show up next Wednesday morning.
Petzl
2013-06-15 02:18:10 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 06:44:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Post by Damian
MNF Whirlfool offer is a good, but I'm not sure how good is their
softphone to use with 3G on the fly though.
Its fine if you don’t use the speakerphone function.
And is very convenient to record the conversation too.
wonder if their software can be rigged to use Skype on?
Skype software protocol is locked, but maybe not the other way.
I are looking or a recorder problem with Android is it is not
multitask. My Phablet claims dual screen but only works with few APP's
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Rod Speed
2013-06-15 05:22:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
MNF Whirlfool offer is a good, but I'm not sure how
good is their softphone to use with 3G on the fly though.
Its fine if you don't use the speakerphone function.
And is very convenient to record the conversation too.
wonder if their software can be rigged to use Skype on?
I doubt it, it appear to be a very standard voip client
with the VSP locked to MNF. You can certainly use
any voip client you like with MNF.
Post by Petzl
Skype software protocol is locked, but maybe not the other way.
I are looking or a recorder problem with Android is it is not multitask.
My Phablet claims dual screen but only works with few APP's
Yeah, that's the main reason I waited with
the iphone, single tasking is dinosaur stuff.
Damian
2013-06-18 11:52:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
MNF Whirlfool offer is a good, but I'm not sure how good is their
softphone to use with 3G on the fly though.
Its fine if you don't use the speakerphone function.
And is very convenient to record the conversation too.
wonder if their software can be rigged to use Skype on?
I doubt it, it appear to be a very standard voip client with the VSP
locked to MNF. You can certainly use any voip client you like with MNF.
True. When I got MNF when they released their deals years ago, they had a
link in their FTP site to download a generic softphone.
Post by Petzl
Skype software protocol is locked, but maybe not the other way.
I are looking or a recorder problem with Android is it is not multitask.
My Phablet claims dual screen but only works with few APP's
Yeah, that's the main reason I waited with the iphone, single tasking is
dinosaur stuff.
Damian
2013-06-18 11:49:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:14:36 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
It maybe that turning off device may not start WiFi automatically
This happens to me with Skype if I turn my mobile off I have to
restart Skype
Skype android should have a setting for auto reconnection??!!
Apparently not!
There's an open source kinda version of skype with more settings and choice
to change ring tone, etc.
But, my smarphone is incompatible with that app.
May be your samsung can handle it. Give it a go.
I have both a Android Tablet and a Samsung Note 2 "Phablet"
On *boot* 2 years ago Skype did reconnect now it don't
Not a problem so much with phone it's always on.
Though some Android upgrages require a re-boot then I have to remember
to reconnect Skype.
I've paid the $80 PA for a Skype number
Doesn't cost anything like that with the MyNetFone Whirlpool offer.
Skype cost me just over $5 a month. That includes local number, local and
national phone calls(unlimited), voicemail, and few other bits and pieces
of stuff.
I haven't bothered with that route because MNF costs me nothing per month.
Post by Damian
MNF Whirlfool offer is a good, but I'm not sure how good is their
softphone to use with 3G on the fly though.
Its fine if you don’t use the speakerphone function.
And is very convenient to record the conversation too.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
clarity is better than what I get
through a mobile number (so far)
Yeah, clarity is excellent, but with very pronounced garbling
of the conversations that you don't get with MNF.
MNF is close to unusable in speakerphone mode
on the iphone tho, the called party gets very bad echo.
It may worth finding why the speakerphone does that!
Is that the typical feedback issue??!! with speaker and microphones too
close?!! I guess not.
No, its at the OTHER end of the phone call.
Post by Damian
I get the echo effect with skype and sometimes with MNF regardless of
whether I use the speakerphone or the headset.
I never use a headset, its either the phone in speakerphone mode or not.
But you only get the problem with the iphone app,
not when you use an ATA or voip capable router.
Yep. This issue is more common with softphones and apps, hence the famous
complaint about Skype as well.
I get it from Skype sometime. But, it's less common these days than earlier
days of Skype.
I tend to believe it's the apps and softphones related issue with the
software hiccups.
I get the echo problem once a month or so, when I call another voip phone of
somebody, and it's most of the time the person in
the other end with their voip phone, complaining my voice echoes. I haven't
heard echo effect from Skype for a while now.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
But, that's not with smartphones though.
I only use an ATA when not using the iphone.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
You can use any voip client you like tho, haven't had a chance to try
alternatives yet tho with the DSL
down and getting the iphone 3G wifi hotspot up.
How long has it been down for?!!!
Went down very early monday morning, 4am.
Came back 16:30 tuesday.
Down again 6:30am Wed
Came back for a very short time in the middle of
the afternoon Thursday and I managed to hit the
disconnect button accidentally. Still down even now.
The tech is sposed to show up next Wednesday morning.
Rod Speed
2013-06-12 17:53:47 UTC
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Post by Petzl
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Basically the protocol settings.
Post by Petzl
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
WiFi hasnothing to do with Amaysim?
That's just plain wrong with the wifi HOTSPOT.

That's an entirely separate matter to the iphone use wifi to communicate
over.

The HOTSPOT allows you to have the iphone as a 3G modem that
uses wifi, bluetooth or USB to allow anything else to use the 3G
service the iphone has using its sim. Very like those little white
boxes that Telstra has for their wireless broadband where the
provide a wifi router that you can connect to with whatever
you want to use the wireless broadband service that its providing.
Post by Petzl
My Samsung tells me when there is a open WiFi (like
Hungry Jacks McDonads) and *if* any good I lock it in.
That's a different thing entirely. That's USING a wifi service
that it can see. The hotspot is PROVIDING a wifi service that
other devices like your PC or laptop can use instead.
Post by Petzl
The phone gives preference to WiFi. Just makesure WiFi is turned
on in set-up? It will remember and go there over mobile data
That's a different thing entirely. That's USING a wifi service
that it can see. The hotspot is PROVIDING a wifi service that
other devices like your PC or laptop can use instead.
Petzl
2013-06-12 22:34:05 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 03:53:47 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Basically the protocol settings.
Post by Petzl
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
WiFi hasnothing to do with Amaysim?
That's just plain wrong with the wifi HOTSPOT.
That's an entirely separate matter to the iphone use wifi to communicate
over.
The HOTSPOT allows you to have the iphone as a 3G modem that
uses wifi, bluetooth or USB to allow anything else to use the 3G
service the iphone has using its sim. Very like those little white
boxes that Telstra has for their wireless broadband where the
provide a wifi router that you can connect to with whatever
you want to use the wireless broadband service that its providing.
OK I got it
http://tinyurl.com/kacpe5a
I just used take SIM card out and use it in a "USB dongle" not had a
need to do this since Telstra fixed my line
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
My Samsung tells me when there is a open WiFi (like
Hungry Jacks McDonads) and *if* any good I lock it in.
That's a different thing entirely. That's USING a wifi service
that it can see. The hotspot is PROVIDING a wifi service that
other devices like your PC or laptop can use instead.
Post by Petzl
The phone gives preference to WiFi. Just makesure WiFi is turned
on in set-up? It will remember and go there over mobile data
That's a different thing entirely. That's USING a wifi service
that it can see. The hotspot is PROVIDING a wifi service that
other devices like your PC or laptop can use instead.
Yep, although I can't figure how or why Amaysim won't let you use your
own hotspot?
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Rod Speed
2013-06-13 00:20:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Basically the protocol settings.
Post by Petzl
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
WiFi hasnothing to do with Amaysim?
That's just plain wrong with the wifi HOTSPOT.
That's an entirely separate matter to the iphone use wifi to communicate
over.
The HOTSPOT allows you to have the iphone as a 3G modem that
uses wifi, bluetooth or USB to allow anything else to use the 3G
service the iphone has using its sim. Very like those little white
boxes that Telstra has for their wireless broadband where the
provide a wifi router that you can connect to with whatever
you want to use the wireless broadband service that its providing.
OK I got it
http://tinyurl.com/kacpe5a
Yep
Post by Petzl
I just used take SIM card out and use it in a "USB dongle"
not had a need to do this since Telstra fixed my line
It's a lot more convenient to just connect to that wifi instead.
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
My Samsung tells me when there is a open WiFi (like
Hungry Jacks McDonads) and *if* any good I lock it in.
That's a different thing entirely. That's USING a wifi service
that it can see. The hotspot is PROVIDING a wifi service that
other devices like your PC or laptop can use instead.
Post by Petzl
The phone gives preference to WiFi. Just makesure WiFi is turned
on in set-up? It will remember and go there over mobile data
That's a different thing entirely. That's USING a wifi service
that it can see. The hotspot is PROVIDING a wifi service that
other devices like your PC or laptop can use instead.
Yep, although I can't figure how or why Amaysim
won't let you use your own hotspot?
There is just some problem with it in the iphones,
it works fine all the other smartphones.

The telstra sim works fine in the iphones.
Petzl
2013-06-15 04:21:56 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
The HOTSPOT allows you to have the iphone as a 3G modem that
uses wifi, bluetooth or USB to allow anything else to use the 3G
service the iphone has using its sim. Very like those little white
boxes that Telstra has for their wireless broadband where the
provide a wifi router that you can connect to with whatever
you want to use the wireless broadband service that its providing.
OK I got it
http://tinyurl.com/kacpe5a
Yep
Now with Amaysim you need to sms the word "tether" to 568?
http://www.amaysim.com.au/help-support/search?query=sms+tether
--
Petzl
I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left
Rod Speed
2013-06-15 05:25:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
The HOTSPOT allows you to have the iphone as a 3G modem that
uses wifi, bluetooth or USB to allow anything else to use the 3G
service the iphone has using its sim. Very like those little white
boxes that Telstra has for their wireless broadband where the
provide a wifi router that you can connect to with whatever
you want to use the wireless broadband service that its providing.
OK I got it
http://tinyurl.com/kacpe5a
Yep
Now with Amaysim you need to sms the word "tether" to 568?
http://www.amaysim.com.au/help-support/search?query=sms+tether
I'll try that next time I have the amaysim sim in the iphone, thanks for
that.
Damian
2013-06-18 11:53:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
The HOTSPOT allows you to have the iphone as a 3G modem that
uses wifi, bluetooth or USB to allow anything else to use the 3G
service the iphone has using its sim. Very like those little white
boxes that Telstra has for their wireless broadband where the
provide a wifi router that you can connect to with whatever
you want to use the wireless broadband service that its providing.
OK I got it
http://tinyurl.com/kacpe5a
Yep
Now with Amaysim you need to sms the word "tether" to 568?
http://www.amaysim.com.au/help-support/search?query=sms+tether
I'll try that next time I have the amaysim sim in the iphone, thanks for
that.
It's great to hear you thanking. Are you sure you are Rod Speed?!! ;-), it
could an identical imposter!!! :-)
Rod Speed
2013-06-18 19:39:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
The HOTSPOT allows you to have the iphone as a 3G modem that
uses wifi, bluetooth or USB to allow anything else to use the 3G
service the iphone has using its sim. Very like those little white
boxes that Telstra has for their wireless broadband where the
provide a wifi router that you can connect to with whatever
you want to use the wireless broadband service that its providing.
OK I got it
http://tinyurl.com/kacpe5a
Yep
Now with Amaysim you need to sms the word "tether" to 568?
http://www.amaysim.com.au/help-support/search?query=sms+tether
I'll try that next time I have the amaysim sim in the iphone, thanks for
that.
It's great to hear you thanking. Are you sure you are Rod Speed?!! ;-),
it could an identical imposter!!! :-)
I do it more than you might think. I usually use that
phrase too, so its easy to check using groups.google.
Rod Speed
2013-06-19 23:20:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
The HOTSPOT allows you to have the iphone as a 3G modem that
uses wifi, bluetooth or USB to allow anything else to use the 3G
service the iphone has using its sim. Very like those little white
boxes that Telstra has for their wireless broadband where the
provide a wifi router that you can connect to with whatever
you want to use the wireless broadband service that its providing.
OK I got it
http://tinyurl.com/kacpe5a
Yep
Now with Amaysim you need to sms the word "tether" to 568?
http://www.amaysim.com.au/help-support/search?query=sms+tether
Worked fine, thanks for that. So much for Amaysim's
support, they claim it doesn't work with iphones.
Rod Speed
2013-06-19 23:37:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Petzl
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:20:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Post by Petzl
Post by Rod Speed
The HOTSPOT allows you to have the iphone as a 3G modem that
uses wifi, bluetooth or USB to allow anything else to use the 3G
service the iphone has using its sim. Very like those little white
boxes that Telstra has for their wireless broadband where the
provide a wifi router that you can connect to with whatever
you want to use the wireless broadband service that its providing.
OK I got it
http://tinyurl.com/kacpe5a
Yep
Now with Amaysim you need to sms the word "tether" to 568?
http://www.amaysim.com.au/help-support/search?query=sms+tether
Worked fine, thanks for that. So much for Amaysim's
support, they claim it doesn't work with iphones.
No it doesn't. You can setup the hotspot fine on the iphone,
and connect the PC to it using wifi, but can't see the internet
behind the iphone, over the 3G connection.

That certainly explains why amaysim support say it doesn't
work on the iphone.

Does work fine with the Telstra sim.
Rod Speed
2013-06-13 07:52:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Basically the protocol settings.
Adding SP3 to the XP system fixed that.
Damian
2013-06-14 01:20:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Rod Speed
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Basically the protocol settings.
Adding SP3 to the XP system fixed that.
I wouldn't dare to run XP without having sp3 on it.
There are too many security holes in the prior service packs, specially if
you use IE with it.
Rod Speed
2013-06-14 10:41:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Rod Speed
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Basically the protocol settings.
Adding SP3 to the XP system fixed that.
I wouldn't dare to run XP without having sp3 on it.
I did, and never had a problem.
Post by Damian
There are too many security holes in the prior service packs, specially if
you use IE with it.
I did that too, but never used it on the web much.

That laptop mostly gets used in the kitchen and
when bottling the beer and when the main desktop
system is down or when doing what the desktop cant
do like get the drivers for the wifi stick with no net access.

I got the laptop working on the iphone wifi hotspot first,
and then had to get the driver for the wifi stick that the
desktop system had not had wifi on because it is normally
cat6 wired to the router.
Damian
2013-06-18 11:57:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Rod Speed
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Basically the protocol settings.
Adding SP3 to the XP system fixed that.
I wouldn't dare to run XP without having sp3 on it.
I did, and never had a problem.
Post by Damian
There are too many security holes in the prior service packs, specially
if you use IE with it.
I did that too, but never used it on the web much.
That laptop mostly gets used in the kitchen and
when bottling the beer and when the main desktop
system is down or when doing what the desktop cant
do like get the drivers for the wifi stick with no net access.
Don't tell me you are home brewer. :-)
Post by Rod Speed
I got the laptop working on the iphone wifi hotspot first,
and then had to get the driver for the wifi stick that the
desktop system had not had wifi on because it is normally
cat6 wired to the router.
Rod Speed
2013-06-18 19:42:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Rod Speed
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Basically the protocol settings.
Adding SP3 to the XP system fixed that.
I wouldn't dare to run XP without having sp3 on it.
I did, and never had a problem.
Post by Damian
There are too many security holes in the prior service packs, specially
if you use IE with it.
I did that too, but never used it on the web much.
That laptop mostly gets used in the kitchen and
when bottling the beer and when the main desktop
system is down or when doing what the desktop cant
do like get the drivers for the wifi stick with no net access.
Don't tell me you are home brewer. :-)
Yep. And have been considering being a home distiller too.

Those 3 that ended up quite literally dead after fucking up
their grappa just in the last few days is a bit of a worry tho.

But then my formal qualifications are in chemistry,
so I doubt I'd have any problem avoiding that result.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
I got the laptop working on the iphone wifi hotspot first,
and then had to get the driver for the wifi stick that the
desktop system had not had wifi on because it is normally
cat6 wired to the router.
Damian
2013-06-19 02:07:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Rod Speed
I've seen, it hasn't bitten me even once yet.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn't support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Basically the protocol settings.
Adding SP3 to the XP system fixed that.
I wouldn't dare to run XP without having sp3 on it.
I did, and never had a problem.
Post by Damian
There are too many security holes in the prior service packs, specially
if you use IE with it.
I did that too, but never used it on the web much.
That laptop mostly gets used in the kitchen and
when bottling the beer and when the main desktop
system is down or when doing what the desktop cant
do like get the drivers for the wifi stick with no net access.
Don't tell me you are home brewer. :-)
Yep. And have been considering being a home distiller too.
Those 3 that ended up quite literally dead after fucking up
their grappa just in the last few days is a bit of a worry tho.
But then my formal qualifications are in chemistry,
so I doubt I'd have any problem avoiding that result.
Yep, your chemistry experties will be handy, but probably not necessary.
I tend to believe wine making and beer making is an art, more like guitar
playing.
You learn the technique initially, then the rest is practicing the art.
What can happen as I believe is that you can make a deadly mistake when busy
or stressed or some
idiot working with you can do that for you. That's something to watch for
when making home brew.
I started doing that, then the mess I've created put me off. I need a better
setup
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
I got the laptop working on the iphone wifi hotspot first,
and then had to get the driver for the wifi stick that the
desktop system had not had wifi on because it is normally
cat6 wired to the router.
keithr
2013-06-19 11:20:47 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Rod Speed
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
I got the laptop working on the iphone wifi hotspot first,
and then had to get the driver for the wifi stick that the
desktop system had not had wifi on because it is normally
cat6 wired to the router.
You may want to read this

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/18/iospoor_passwords_crackable_24_seconds/
Rod Speed
2013-06-19 20:06:22 UTC
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Post by keithr
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Rod Speed
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
I got the laptop working on the iphone wifi hotspot first,
and then had to get the driver for the wifi stick that the
desktop system had not had wifi on because it is normally
cat6 wired to the router.
You may want to read this
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/18/iospoor_passwords_crackable_24_seconds/
I don’t use the default passphrase, I use my own very long random one
instead.

Very easy to do.
Damian
2013-06-20 00:30:19 UTC
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Post by keithr
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Rod Speed
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
I got the laptop working on the iphone wifi hotspot first,
and then had to get the driver for the wifi stick that the
desktop system had not had wifi on because it is normally
cat6 wired to the router.
You may want to read this
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/18/iospoor_passwords_crackable_24_seconds/
I don’t use the default passphrase, I use my own very long random one
instead.
Very easy to do.
Yes, and obviously a smart move to stay out of trouble. Better not to trust
automatically generated passwords.

Damian
2013-06-14 01:08:40 UTC
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Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:09:32 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing
on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
Post by Damian
and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects as
3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
Post by Damian
The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me when I try to save
some money to buy a dump to live in.
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose wires
in their DSLAM.
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online. Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know. I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago. Then returned it without
using it.
The bloke at Woolies wanted to know why I want to return it. He was the
manager.
Told him to mind his own business about that. Then he said there's nothing
he can do about
government getting hold of my information. Told the idiot, they have all of
my info already
going back to generations, perhaps.
Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you don't
have any other choice.
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to deal
with, and that's in addition to
giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal. Recently found even better deal with
Exetel, but not worth switching, just
to save six bucks a month. TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a
long way from their shitty old days of bad
customer service.
iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you up to
sign up with them with their contracts as long as your lifespan.
May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months), if
they have a DSLAM in your area.
My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she still
gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange where I
clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a
non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes
first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
Post by Damian
It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year. Probably
good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before you
know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
Post by Petzl
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Rod Speed
2013-06-14 10:36:58 UTC
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Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:09:32 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
Post by Damian
and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects as
3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
Post by Damian
The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.

Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
Post by Damian
when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose wires in
their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.

The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.

That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.

The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.

Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.

Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
Post by Damian
Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.

Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
Post by Damian
I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
Post by Damian
I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.

Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.

The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
Post by Damian
Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to know why
I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind his own business
about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do about government
getting hold of my information.
He's right.
Post by Damian
Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
Post by Damian
Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
Post by Damian
I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
Post by Damian
Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to deal
with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.

I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.

Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.

In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
Post by Damian
Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.

They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
Post by Damian
but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.

I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
Post by Damian
TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
Post by Damian
iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you up to
sign up with them with their contracts as long as your lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
Post by Damian
May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Post by Damian
if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Post by Damian
My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
Post by Damian
What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange where
I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a
non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever comes
first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
Post by Damian
It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before you
know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
Post by Petzl
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Damian
2013-06-14 15:07:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Damian
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:09:32 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
Post by Damian
and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects
as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
Post by Damian
The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
Post by Damian
when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
That's what I started doing. Collecting my own tools to do all the work as
well.
It's one hell of a project.
Wonder how long it took you to finish it!
Post by Damian
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
Post by Damian
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose wires
in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Post by Damian
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
Post by Damian
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
Post by Damian
Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
Post by Damian
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
Post by Damian
I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
Post by Damian
I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
Post by Damian
Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to know
why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind his own
business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do about
government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
Post by Damian
Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
Post by Damian
Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
Post by Damian
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
Post by Damian
I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
Post by Damian
Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to deal
with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
Post by Damian
Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
Post by Damian
but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
That because their CEO started aquiring smaller companies and grew bigger.
Very smart move since he started doing that very early in the DSL business.
Exetel basically resells Optus products. In the areas Optus have their
hardware, Extel deal is very good.
Post by Damian
TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
That depends. I pay $30 for 50Gig. With iinet I can't find a deal that good.
Then I can't find 6 month contracts with them either. TPG chages $60 for
connection
with their six month contracts. Very good thing IMO.
Post by Damian
iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you up to
sign up with them with their contracts as long as your lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
True. But that leaving fee comes to no lower than $150.
Basically, they want the money back for the connection fee if you leave them
early.
That's what happened to me with their Naked DSL.
I was more upset about the bad connection problems and they weren't able to
fix it for months.
Like you said, it could've been Telstra problem(iinet told me they were
using their own DSLAM though).
But, iinet still have the responsiblity for me under the cnontract though.
Post by Damian
May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Never seen that on their website.
Post by Damian
if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
That's odd. iinet had been sending me emails telling me about their DSLAM
rollout plans back then.
I think they do more than reselling Telstra products. I do think they have
their own DSLAMs in many areas.
Post by Damian
My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
Post by Damian
What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange where
I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
Post by Damian
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a
non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever
comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before you
know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
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Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
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Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
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and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
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I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects
as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
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The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
That's what I started doing. Collecting my own tools to do all the work as
well.
I did it the other way. Went to visit my parents who had just
had a house built for them using an architect and builder, a
rather unusual type of post and beam construction that
allowed you do see how it was done with the exposed beams.

Decided that that was as easy as falling off a log,
bought the land as soon as I got home and started
building. The land only cost me $3.5K with a pay
it off scheme from the NSW govt that flogged the land.
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It's one hell of a project.
Wonder how long it took you to finish it!
Couple of years quite literally with all the spare time building.
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The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
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And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose wires
in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Looks like it might need charging twice a day when using it actively.
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Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Since I don’t move around when doing it, its just putting
it on the charger twice a day instead of every few days.
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So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
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So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
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Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
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Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
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I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
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I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
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Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to know
why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind his own
business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do about
government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
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Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
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Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
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Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
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I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
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Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to
deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
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Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
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but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
That because their CEO started aquiring smaller companies and grew bigger.
Yep.
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Very smart move since he started doing that very early in the DSL business.
Yep. Only real glitch was when they fucked up the calculations
and had to admit they fucked up the books one time.
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Exetel basically resells Optus products. In the areas Optus have their
hardware, Extel deal is very good.
Yeah, I didn’t use it myself because I wasn’t confident
that they would survive. And their web site is a mess.
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TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
That depends. I pay $30 for 50Gig. With iinet I can't find a deal that good.
I was talking about the support, not the price.
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Then I can't find 6 month contracts with them either.
That’s what I got for the turks, twice.
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TPG chages $60 for connection with their six month contracts. Very good
thing IMO.
Forget what iinet charges.
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iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you up
to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
True. But that leaving fee comes to no lower than $150.
Don’t think that’s right, but only a dill leaves in less than 6 months
anyway.
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Basically, they want the money back for the connection fee if you leave
them early.
Sure, but that’s reasonable.
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That's what happened to me with their Naked DSL.
I was more upset about the bad connection problems and they weren't able
to fix it for months.
If they can't deliver a usable service, you get all your money back.
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Like you said, it could've been Telstra problem(iinet told me they were
using their own DSLAM though).
Yeah, they do with the naked service. Could have been the line tho.
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But, iinet still have the responsiblity for me under the cnontract though.
Yep, and when they couldn’t deliver what you had paid
for, you were legally entitled to all your money back.
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May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Never seen that on their website.
Its pretty obvious.
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if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Yeah, I dunno how that happened.

iinet did take over one of the local ISPs too.
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That's odd. iinet had been sending me emails telling me about their
DSLAM rollout plans back then.
I think they do more than reselling Telstra products.
Yes they do, but not with my exchange.
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I do think they have their own DSLAMs in many areas.
Only in the capital city burbs the last time I checked.
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My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
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What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a
non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever
comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before you
know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
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On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:09:32 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
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Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
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and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
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I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects
as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
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The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
That's what I started doing. Collecting my own tools to do all the work
as well.
I did it the other way. Went to visit my parents who had just
had a house built for them using an architect and builder, a
rather unusual type of post and beam construction that
allowed you do see how it was done with the exposed beams.
Decided that that was as easy as falling off a log,
bought the land as soon as I got home and started
building. The land only cost me $3.5K with a pay
it off scheme from the NSW govt that flogged the land.
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It's one hell of a project.
Wonder how long it took you to finish it!
Couple of years quite literally with all the spare time building.
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The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
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And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose wires
in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Looks like it might need charging twice a day when using it actively.
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Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Since I don’t move around when doing it, its just putting
it on the charger twice a day instead of every few days.
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So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
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So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
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Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
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Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
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I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
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I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
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Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to know
why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind his own
business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do about
government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
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Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
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Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
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Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
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I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
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Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to
deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
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Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
Post by Damian
but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
That because their CEO started aquiring smaller companies and grew bigger.
Yep.
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Very smart move since he started doing that very early in the DSL business.
Yep. Only real glitch was when they fucked up the calculations
and had to admit they fucked up the books one time.
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Exetel basically resells Optus products. In the areas Optus have their
hardware, Extel deal is very good.
Yeah, I didn’t use it myself because I wasn’t confident
that they would survive. And their web site is a mess.
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TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
That depends. I pay $30 for 50Gig. With iinet I can't find a deal that good.
I was talking about the support, not the price.
TPG is getting better in that department. They are far better than the early
days of bad support.
IMO, TPG deal is the best for the money.
For me, I've never had to call their technical support for nearly five
years. I'm on their DSLAM.
My girl friend's 'off-net' ADSL deal with TPG took about week and a halfto
get it running due to Telstra issue with a line fault.
She complained to the TPG and asked for compensation. TPG kept calling her
for days and left messages, which she didn't bother to reply.
Being in a regional exchange with no TPG hardware on it, she gets better
speeds than me.
I think they are pretty good now with both tech support and customer
service.
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Then I can't find 6 month contracts with them either.
That’s what I got for the turks, twice.
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TPG chages $60 for connection with their six month contracts. Very good
thing IMO.
Forget what iinet charges.
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iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you up
to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
True. But that leaving fee comes to no lower than $150.
Don’t think that’s right, but only a dill leaves in less than 6 months
anyway.
Could be wrong, 'cos I didn't have to deal with iinet for a long time now.
But, I did spend half hour on the phone with them in order to get my girl
friend a
good ADSL deal with them for her.
It turned out their deals are pretty crappy for her area since she's not in
their DSLAM.
TPG deal was the best I could find after extensive research.
BTW, I ignored all the long term contracts and only filtered out the deals
less than 12 months contract.
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Basically, they want the money back for the connection fee if you leave
them early.
Sure, but that’s reasonable.
Yes, considering most companies have a contract break fee, which is much
higher than the initial maximum connection fee.
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That's what happened to me with their Naked DSL.
I was more upset about the bad connection problems and they weren't able
to fix it for months.
If they can't deliver a usable service, you get all your money back.
That's where I stuffed up. Since I was working two jobs, didn't have the
clarity of mind to work out it's my right.
I got the CSG completely wrong, apparently.
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Like you said, it could've been Telstra problem(iinet told me they were
using their own DSLAM though).
Yeah, they do with the naked service. Could have been the line tho.
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But, iinet still have the responsiblity for me under the cnontract though.
Yep, and when they couldn’t deliver what you had paid
for, you were legally entitled to all your money back.
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May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Never seen that on their website.
Its pretty obvious.
Ok. better have a look again.
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if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Yeah, I dunno how that happened.
iinet did take over one of the local ISPs too.
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That's odd. iinet had been sending me emails telling me about their
DSLAM rollout plans back then.
I think they do more than reselling Telstra products.
Yes they do, but not with my exchange.
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I do think they have their own DSLAMs in many areas.
Only in the capital city burbs the last time I checked.
Yep. I think that's all they can afford. They've apparently invested in the
NBN as well(if I'm right).
Not bad for a small operation started not that long ago in Perth.
I think I took the experience with their Naked DSL issue pretty hard, since
I had been a faithful
iinet subscriber since the dawn of the millennium.
I can't stand their ad campaign with the silly looking guy though.
Wonder if he's related to the CEO or if he's the actual CEO. :-))
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My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
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What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending
a non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is
$15 for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days
whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before
you know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
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Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
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Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
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and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
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I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that
detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
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The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
That's what I started doing. Collecting my own tools to do all the work
as well.
I did it the other way. Went to visit my parents who had just
had a house built for them using an architect and builder, a
rather unusual type of post and beam construction that
allowed you do see how it was done with the exposed beams.
Decided that that was as easy as falling off a log,
bought the land as soon as I got home and started
building. The land only cost me $3.5K with a pay
it off scheme from the NSW govt that flogged the land.
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It's one hell of a project.
Wonder how long it took you to finish it!
Couple of years quite literally with all the spare time building.
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The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
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And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose
wires in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Looks like it might need charging twice a day when using it actively.
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Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Since I don’t move around when doing it, its just putting
it on the charger twice a day instead of every few days.
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So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
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So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
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Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
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Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
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I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
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I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
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Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to know
why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind his own
business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do about
government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
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Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
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Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
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Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
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I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
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Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to
deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
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Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
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but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
That because their CEO started aquiring smaller companies and grew bigger.
Yep.
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Very smart move since he started doing that very early in the DSL business.
Yep. Only real glitch was when they fucked up the calculations
and had to admit they fucked up the books one time.
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Exetel basically resells Optus products. In the areas Optus have their
hardware, Extel deal is very good.
Yeah, I didn’t use it myself because I wasn’t confident
that they would survive. And their web site is a mess.
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TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
That depends. I pay $30 for 50Gig. With iinet I can't find a deal that good.
I was talking about the support, not the price.
TPG is getting better in that department. They are far better than the
early days of bad support.
They'd want to be.
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IMO, TPG deal is the best for the money.
Dodo and Exetel are significantly cheaper here, essentially
because TPG doesn’t offer phone and internet bundled here.

OTOH we appear to be out of ADSL2+ ports here on the Telstra
DSLAMs and TPG does have free ADSL2+ ports, at least in theory.

Not at all clear what Telstra is planning to do about adding
new ports, whether they arent doing that anymore now that
they have sold out to the NBN or what. I'll have to ask the
tech when he shows up to fix the fault, allegedly this morning.

The TPG coverage map claims I wouldn’t get any better
than 8K on ADSL2+ tho, so that may be quite academic
and the better value dodo or exetel plans are the way to go.

I haven't tried leaning on iinet and asking them if they
will match those tho given that I have been with them
for quite literally 10 fucking years now.
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For me, I've never had to call their technical support for nearly five
years.
Yeah, I didn’t with iinet until just now.
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I'm on their DSLAM. My girl friend's 'off-net' ADSL deal with TPG took
about week and a halfto get it running due to Telstra issue with a line
fault.
She complained to the TPG and asked for compensation. TPG kept calling her
for days and left messages, which she didn't bother to reply.
Being in a regional exchange with no TPG hardware on it, she gets better
speeds than me.
I think they are pretty good now with both tech support and customer
service.
Yeah, a couple of mates of mine use them and have no complaints.

One did early on, but that was a while ago now, years.
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Then I can't find 6 month contracts with them either.
That’s what I got for the turks, twice.
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TPG chages $60 for connection with their six month contracts. Very good
thing IMO.
Forget what iinet charges.
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iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you up
to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
True. But that leaving fee comes to no lower than $150.
Don’t think that’s right, but only a dill leaves in less than 6 months
anyway.
Could be wrong, 'cos I didn't have to deal with iinet for a long time now.
But, I did spend half hour on the phone with them in order to get my girl
friend a good ADSL deal with them for her.
It turned out their deals are pretty crappy for her area since she's not
in their DSLAM.
TPG deal was the best I could find after extensive research.
BTW, I ignored all the long term contracts and only filtered out the deals
less than 12 months contract.
Strictly speaking your should actually work out what it costs to
leave before the contract expires. That’s the real cost that matters.

That does vary quite a bit.
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Basically, they want the money back for the connection fee if you leave
them early.
Sure, but that’s reasonable.
Yes, considering most companies have a contract break fee, which is much
higher than the initial maximum connection fee.
Not with iinet. It doesn’t cost all that much if you have used most
of the contract.
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That's what happened to me with their Naked DSL.
I was more upset about the bad connection problems and they weren't able
to fix it for months.
If they can't deliver a usable service, you get all your money back.
That's where I stuffed up. Since I was working two jobs, didn't have the
clarity of mind to work out it's my right.
I got the CSG completely wrong, apparently.
Yeah. And that’s just the time it takes them too, you
are still legally entitled to the service you paid for
or your money back quite separately to the CSG.
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Like you said, it could've been Telstra problem(iinet told me they were
using their own DSLAM though).
Yeah, they do with the naked service. Could have been the line tho.
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But, iinet still have the responsiblity for me under the cnontract though.
Yep, and when they couldn’t deliver what you had paid
for, you were legally entitled to all your money back.
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May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Never seen that on their website.
Its pretty obvious.
Ok. better have a look again.
One quirk with exetel is that their contract periods
vary with the service you are buying.

That’s always put me off them, very complex mess of plans.

But it turns out that only the wide coverage plans are
available here which simplifys things considerably.

But they cant sell me a phone service here, so that complicates things too.

That’s one area where dodo wins for some reason.

And I know they can because the fella that came
back from china went with them and has it.
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if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Yeah, I dunno how that happened.
iinet did take over one of the local ISPs too.
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That's odd. iinet had been sending me emails telling me about their
DSLAM rollout plans back then.
I think they do more than reselling Telstra products.
Yes they do, but not with my exchange.
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I do think they have their own DSLAMs in many areas.
Only in the capital city burbs the last time I checked.
Yep. I think that's all they can afford. They've parently invested in the
NBN as well(if I'm right).
Yes, they have, they were one of the first to offer NBN plans.
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Not bad for a small operation started not that long ago in Perth.
I think I took the experience with their Naked DSL issue pretty hard,
since I had been a faithful
iinet subscriber since the dawn of the millennium.
I can't stand their ad campaign with the silly looking guy though.
Wonder if he's related to the CEO or if he's the actual CEO. :-))
I have never even seen their ads. They don’t advertise here.
TPG does, but they flog what they can't provide here.
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My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
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What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending
a non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is
$15 for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days
whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before
you know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to
connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
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Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not
if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action
by consumers(if I'm correct).
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Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
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and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard
isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
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I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that
detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
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The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
That's what I started doing. Collecting my own tools to do all the work
as well.
I did it the other way. Went to visit my parents who had just
had a house built for them using an architect and builder, a
rather unusual type of post and beam construction that
allowed you do see how it was done with the exposed beams.
Decided that that was as easy as falling off a log,
bought the land as soon as I got home and started
building. The land only cost me $3.5K with a pay
it off scheme from the NSW govt that flogged the land.
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It's one hell of a project.
Wonder how long it took you to finish it!
Couple of years quite literally with all the spare time building.
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The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
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And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose
wires in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Looks like it might need charging twice a day when using it actively.
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Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Since I don’t move around when doing it, its just putting
it on the charger twice a day instead of every few days.
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So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
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So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
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Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
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Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
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I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
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I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
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Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to
know why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind
his own business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do
about government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
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Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
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Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
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Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
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I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
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Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to
deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
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Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
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but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
That because their CEO started aquiring smaller companies and grew bigger.
Yep.
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Very smart move since he started doing that very early in the DSL business.
Yep. Only real glitch was when they fucked up the calculations
and had to admit they fucked up the books one time.
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Exetel basically resells Optus products. In the areas Optus have their
hardware, Extel deal is very good.
Yeah, I didn’t use it myself because I wasn’t confident
that they would survive. And their web site is a mess.
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TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
That depends. I pay $30 for 50Gig. With iinet I can't find a deal that good.
I was talking about the support, not the price.
TPG is getting better in that department. They are far better than the
early days of bad support.
They'd want to be.
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IMO, TPG deal is the best for the money.
Dodo and Exetel are significantly cheaper here, essentially
because TPG doesn’t offer phone and internet bundled here.
OTOH we appear to be out of ADSL2+ ports here on the Telstra
DSLAMs and TPG does have free ADSL2+ ports, at least in theory.
Not at all clear what Telstra is planning to do about adding
new ports, whether they arent doing that anymore now that
they have sold out to the NBN or what. I'll have to ask the
tech when he shows up to fix the fault, allegedly this morning.
And he did ring me, and decided that the fault was most
likely back in the exchange and found that it was a fucked
DSLAM port so moved my line to a good one.

When I asked him about ADSL2+ ports, he said he was
going to install some more today and that I had better
order an ADSL2+ service quick, so I could get one before
they all go to those waiting for more free ports.

Turns out that dodo cant even order you an ADSL2+ service
if none are shown as available, so I decided to cut to the
chance and order one with Telstra and then when I have
got that, move it to dodo later.

iinet doesn’t resell Telstra ADSL2+, only ADSL1 and don’t
have their own DSLAMs in my exchange. They also said
that even tho I have been with them for 10 years now,
they arent prepared to match anyone else's plan pricing.

So it will be bye bye iinet if I can actually get an ADSL2+
line from Telstra. The second bigpong fella was happy to
order the ADSL2+ service with a note on the file that if
they cant provide it when it comes to the crunch, it wont
cost me a cent.

Got a casual plan with Telstra too that isnt any more
than I am paying to iinet, tho the volume is much lower.

I didn’t got with TPG even tho they do have ADSL2+
ports available because they would have been a bit
more expensive than dodo.
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The TPG coverage map claims I wouldn’t get any better
than 8K on ADSL2+ tho, so that may be quite academic
and the better value dodo or exetel plans are the way to go.
I haven't tried leaning on iinet and asking them if they
will match those tho given that I have been with them
for quite literally 10 fucking years now.
Just did, and they wont.
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For me, I've never had to call their technical support for nearly five
years.
Yeah, I didn’t with iinet until just now.
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I'm on their DSLAM. My girl friend's 'off-net' ADSL deal with TPG took
about week and a halfto get it running due to Telstra issue with a line
fault.
She complained to the TPG and asked for compensation. TPG kept calling
her for days and left messages, which she didn't bother to reply.
Being in a regional exchange with no TPG hardware on it, she gets better
speeds than me.
I think they are pretty good now with both tech support and customer
service.
Yeah, a couple of mates of mine use them and have no complaints.
One did early on, but that was a while ago now, years.
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Then I can't find 6 month contracts with them either.
That’s what I got for the turks, twice.
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TPG chages $60 for connection with their six month contracts. Very good
thing IMO.
Forget what iinet charges.
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iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you
up to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your
lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
True. But that leaving fee comes to no lower than $150.
Don’t think that’s right, but only a dill leaves in less than 6 months
anyway.
Could be wrong, 'cos I didn't have to deal with iinet for a long time now.
But, I did spend half hour on the phone with them in order to get my girl
friend a good ADSL deal with them for her.
It turned out their deals are pretty crappy for her area since she's not
in their DSLAM.
TPG deal was the best I could find after extensive research.
BTW, I ignored all the long term contracts and only filtered out the
deals less than 12 months contract.
Strictly speaking your should actually work out what it costs to
leave before the contract expires. That’s the real cost that matters.
That does vary quite a bit.
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Basically, they want the money back for the connection fee if you leave
them early.
Sure, but that’s reasonable.
Yes, considering most companies have a contract break fee, which is much
higher than the initial maximum connection fee.
Not with iinet. It doesn’t cost all that much if you have used most
of the contract.
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That's what happened to me with their Naked DSL.
I was more upset about the bad connection problems and they weren't
able to fix it for months.
If they can't deliver a usable service, you get all your money back.
That's where I stuffed up. Since I was working two jobs, didn't have the
clarity of mind to work out it's my right.
I got the CSG completely wrong, apparently.
Yeah. And that’s just the time it takes them too, you
are still legally entitled to the service you paid for
or your money back quite separately to the CSG.
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Like you said, it could've been Telstra problem(iinet told me they were
using their own DSLAM though).
Yeah, they do with the naked service. Could have been the line tho.
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But, iinet still have the responsiblity for me under the cnontract though.
Yep, and when they couldn’t deliver what you had paid
for, you were legally entitled to all your money back.
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May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Never seen that on their website.
Its pretty obvious.
Ok. better have a look again.
One quirk with exetel is that their contract periods
vary with the service you are buying.
That’s always put me off them, very complex mess of plans.
But it turns out that only the wide coverage plans are
available here which simplifys things considerably.
But they cant sell me a phone service here, so that complicates things too.
That’s one area where dodo wins for some reason.
And I know they can because the fella that came
back from china went with them and has it.
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if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Yeah, I dunno how that happened.
iinet did take over one of the local ISPs too.
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That's odd. iinet had been sending me emails telling me about their
DSLAM rollout plans back then.
I think they do more than reselling Telstra products.
Yes they do, but not with my exchange.
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I do think they have their own DSLAMs in many areas.
Only in the capital city burbs the last time I checked.
Yep. I think that's all they can afford. They've parently invested in the
NBN as well(if I'm right).
Yes, they have, they were one of the first to offer NBN plans.
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Not bad for a small operation started not that long ago in Perth.
I think I took the experience with their Naked DSL issue pretty hard,
since I had been a faithful
iinet subscriber since the dawn of the millennium.
I can't stand their ad campaign with the silly looking guy though.
Wonder if he's related to the CEO or if he's the actual CEO. :-))
I have never even seen their ads. They don’t advertise here.
TPG does, but they flog what they can't provide here.
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My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
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What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by
sending a non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is
$15 for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days
whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before
you know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
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Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to
connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
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Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod
need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major
cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes
moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe
not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action
by consumers(if I'm correct).
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Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
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and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard
isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
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I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that
detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
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The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
That's what I started doing. Collecting my own tools to do all the
work as well.
I did it the other way. Went to visit my parents who had just
had a house built for them using an architect and builder, a
rather unusual type of post and beam construction that
allowed you do see how it was done with the exposed beams.
Decided that that was as easy as falling off a log,
bought the land as soon as I got home and started
building. The land only cost me $3.5K with a pay
it off scheme from the NSW govt that flogged the land.
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It's one hell of a project.
Wonder how long it took you to finish it!
Couple of years quite literally with all the spare time building.
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The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
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And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose
wires in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Looks like it might need charging twice a day when using it actively.
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Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Since I don’t move around when doing it, its just putting
it on the charger twice a day instead of every few days.
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So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
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So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
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Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
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Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
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I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
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I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
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Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to
know why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind
his own business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do
about government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
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Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
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Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when
you don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
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Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
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I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
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Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to
deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
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Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
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but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
That because their CEO started aquiring smaller companies and grew bigger.
Yep.
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Very smart move since he started doing that very early in the DSL business.
Yep. Only real glitch was when they fucked up the calculations
and had to admit they fucked up the books one time.
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Exetel basically resells Optus products. In the areas Optus have their
hardware, Extel deal is very good.
Yeah, I didn’t use it myself because I wasn’t confident
that they would survive. And their web site is a mess.
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TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
That depends. I pay $30 for 50Gig. With iinet I can't find a deal that good.
I was talking about the support, not the price.
TPG is getting better in that department. They are far better than the
early days of bad support.
They'd want to be.
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IMO, TPG deal is the best for the money.
Dodo and Exetel are significantly cheaper here, essentially
because TPG doesn’t offer phone and internet bundled here.
OTOH we appear to be out of ADSL2+ ports here on the Telstra
DSLAMs and TPG does have free ADSL2+ ports, at least in theory.
Not at all clear what Telstra is planning to do about adding
new ports, whether they arent doing that anymore now that
they have sold out to the NBN or what. I'll have to ask the
tech when he shows up to fix the fault, allegedly this morning.
And he did ring me, and decided that the fault was most
likely back in the exchange and found that it was a fucked
DSLAM port so moved my line to a good one.
When I asked him about ADSL2+ ports, he said he was
going to install some more today and that I had better
order an ADSL2+ service quick, so I could get one before
they all go to those waiting for more free ports.
Turns out that dodo cant even order you an ADSL2+ service
if none are shown as available, so I decided to cut to the
chance and order one with Telstra and then when I have
got that, move it to dodo later.
iinet doesn’t resell Telstra ADSL2+, only ADSL1 and don’t
have their own DSLAMs in my exchange. They also said
that even tho I have been with them for 10 years now,
they arent prepared to match anyone else's plan pricing.
So it will be bye bye iinet if I can actually get an ADSL2+
line from Telstra. The second bigpong fella was happy to
order the ADSL2+ service with a note on the file that if
they cant provide it when it comes to the crunch, it wont
cost me a cent.
Got a casual plan with Telstra too that isnt any more
than I am paying to iinet, tho the volume is much lower.
I didn’t got with TPG even tho they do have ADSL2+
ports available because they would have been a bit
more expensive than dodo.
That doesn't sound right to me. If TPG have their own DSLAM, you should be
able to get the dirt cheap plans like I do.
That should be cheaper than Dodo or same price, and the contract wise
definitely better than any.
I'm paying $30 for 50 Gig, cheap enough for me. Does Dodo better that? I
think not.
Their news server and perhaps their mail server is bit sluggish, but that
probably not going to bother you.
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The TPG coverage map claims I wouldn’t get any better
than 8K on ADSL2+ tho, so that may be quite academic
and the better value dodo or exetel plans are the way to go.
I haven't tried leaning on iinet and asking them if they
will match those tho given that I have been with them
for quite literally 10 fucking years now.
Just did, and they wont.
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For me, I've never had to call their technical support for nearly five
years.
Yeah, I didn’t with iinet until just now.
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I'm on their DSLAM. My girl friend's 'off-net' ADSL deal with TPG took
about week and a halfto get it running due to Telstra issue with a line
fault.
She complained to the TPG and asked for compensation. TPG kept calling
her for days and left messages, which she didn't bother to reply.
Being in a regional exchange with no TPG hardware on it, she gets better
speeds than me.
I think they are pretty good now with both tech support and customer
service.
Yeah, a couple of mates of mine use them and have no complaints.
One did early on, but that was a while ago now, years.
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Then I can't find 6 month contracts with them either.
That’s what I got for the turks, twice.
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TPG chages $60 for connection with their six month contracts. Very
good thing IMO.
Forget what iinet charges.
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iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you
up to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your
lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
True. But that leaving fee comes to no lower than $150.
Don’t think that’s right, but only a dill leaves in less than 6 months
anyway.
Could be wrong, 'cos I didn't have to deal with iinet for a long time now.
But, I did spend half hour on the phone with them in order to get my
girl friend a good ADSL deal with them for her.
It turned out their deals are pretty crappy for her area since she's not
in their DSLAM.
TPG deal was the best I could find after extensive research.
BTW, I ignored all the long term contracts and only filtered out the
deals less than 12 months contract.
Strictly speaking your should actually work out what it costs to
leave before the contract expires. That’s the real cost that matters.
That does vary quite a bit.
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Basically, they want the money back for the connection fee if you
leave them early.
Sure, but that’s reasonable.
Yes, considering most companies have a contract break fee, which is much
higher than the initial maximum connection fee.
Not with iinet. It doesn’t cost all that much if you have used most
of the contract.
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That's what happened to me with their Naked DSL.
I was more upset about the bad connection problems and they weren't
able to fix it for months.
If they can't deliver a usable service, you get all your money back.
That's where I stuffed up. Since I was working two jobs, didn't have the
clarity of mind to work out it's my right.
I got the CSG completely wrong, apparently.
Yeah. And that’s just the time it takes them too, you
are still legally entitled to the service you paid for
or your money back quite separately to the CSG.
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Like you said, it could've been Telstra problem(iinet told me they
were using their own DSLAM though).
Yeah, they do with the naked service. Could have been the line tho.
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But, iinet still have the responsiblity for me under the cnontract though.
Yep, and when they couldn’t deliver what you had paid
for, you were legally entitled to all your money back.
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May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Never seen that on their website.
Its pretty obvious.
Ok. better have a look again.
One quirk with exetel is that their contract periods
vary with the service you are buying.
That’s always put me off them, very complex mess of plans.
But it turns out that only the wide coverage plans are
available here which simplifys things considerably.
But they cant sell me a phone service here, so that complicates things too.
That’s one area where dodo wins for some reason.
And I know they can because the fella that came
back from china went with them and has it.
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if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Yeah, I dunno how that happened.
iinet did take over one of the local ISPs too.
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That's odd. iinet had been sending me emails telling me about their
DSLAM rollout plans back then.
I think they do more than reselling Telstra products.
Yes they do, but not with my exchange.
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I do think they have their own DSLAMs in many areas.
Only in the capital city burbs the last time I checked.
Yep. I think that's all they can afford. They've parently invested in
the NBN as well(if I'm right).
Yes, they have, they were one of the first to offer NBN plans.
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Not bad for a small operation started not that long ago in Perth.
I think I took the experience with their Naked DSL issue pretty hard,
since I had been a faithful
iinet subscriber since the dawn of the millennium.
I can't stand their ad campaign with the silly looking guy though.
Wonder if he's related to the CEO or if he's the actual CEO. :-))
I have never even seen their ads. They don’t advertise here.
TPG does, but they flog what they can't provide here.
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My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but
she still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
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What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by
sending a non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is
$15 for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days
whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before
you know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
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Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to
connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
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Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod
need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major
cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes
moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe
not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action
by consumers(if I'm correct).
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Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
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and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan
simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software
or hardware issues with this smartphone.
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I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that
detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
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The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
That's what I started doing. Collecting my own tools to do all the
work as well.
I did it the other way. Went to visit my parents who had just
had a house built for them using an architect and builder, a
rather unusual type of post and beam construction that
allowed you do see how it was done with the exposed beams.
Decided that that was as easy as falling off a log,
bought the land as soon as I got home and started
building. The land only cost me $3.5K with a pay
it off scheme from the NSW govt that flogged the land.
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It's one hell of a project.
Wonder how long it took you to finish it!
Couple of years quite literally with all the spare time building.
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The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
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And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose
wires in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Looks like it might need charging twice a day when using it actively.
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Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Since I don’t move around when doing it, its just putting
it on the charger twice a day instead of every few days.
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So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
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So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
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Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
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Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
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I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
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I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
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Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to
know why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind
his own business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do
about government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
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Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
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Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when
you don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
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Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
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I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
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Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have
to deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL
deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
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Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
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but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
That because their CEO started aquiring smaller companies and grew bigger.
Yep.
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Very smart move since he started doing that very early in the DSL business.
Yep. Only real glitch was when they fucked up the calculations
and had to admit they fucked up the books one time.
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Exetel basically resells Optus products. In the areas Optus have
their hardware, Extel deal is very good.
Yeah, I didn’t use it myself because I wasn’t confident
that they would survive. And their web site is a mess.
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TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from
their shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
That depends. I pay $30 for 50Gig. With iinet I can't find a deal that good.
I was talking about the support, not the price.
TPG is getting better in that department. They are far better than the
early days of bad support.
They'd want to be.
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IMO, TPG deal is the best for the money.
Dodo and Exetel are significantly cheaper here, essentially
because TPG doesn’t offer phone and internet bundled here.
OTOH we appear to be out of ADSL2+ ports here on the Telstra
DSLAMs and TPG does have free ADSL2+ ports, at least in theory.
Not at all clear what Telstra is planning to do about adding
new ports, whether they arent doing that anymore now that
they have sold out to the NBN or what. I'll have to ask the
tech when he shows up to fix the fault, allegedly this morning.
And he did ring me, and decided that the fault was most
likely back in the exchange and found that it was a fucked
DSLAM port so moved my line to a good one.
When I asked him about ADSL2+ ports, he said he was
going to install some more today and that I had better
order an ADSL2+ service quick, so I could get one before
they all go to those waiting for more free ports.
Turns out that dodo cant even order you an ADSL2+ service
if none are shown as available, so I decided to cut to the
chance and order one with Telstra and then when I have
got that, move it to dodo later.
iinet doesn’t resell Telstra ADSL2+, only ADSL1 and don’t
have their own DSLAMs in my exchange. They also said
that even tho I have been with them for 10 years now,
they arent prepared to match anyone else's plan pricing.
So it will be bye bye iinet if I can actually get an ADSL2+
line from Telstra. The second bigpong fella was happy to
order the ADSL2+ service with a note on the file that if
they cant provide it when it comes to the crunch, it wont
cost me a cent.
Got a casual plan with Telstra too that isnt any more
than I am paying to iinet, tho the volume is much lower.
I didn’t got with TPG even tho they do have ADSL2+
ports available because they would have been a bit
more expensive than dodo.
That doesn't sound right to me. If TPG have their own DSLAM, you should be
able to get the dirt cheap plans like I do.
No, they make a clear distinction between the exchanges where
they have their own DSLAMs and do provide a POTS service to
if you want one, and exchanges where they have their own DSLAMs
but can not provide a POTS service too if you want one.

Presumably they use different technology in the two different situations.
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That should be cheaper than Dodo or same price,
No, because Dodo have much lower volume plans too.

So they will always be cheaper if you don’t need the volume.
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and the contract wise definitely better than any.
That’s not right either. You are free to have no
contract at all with iinet, dodo and even Telstra.
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I'm paying $30 for 50 Gig, cheap enough for me. Does Dodo better that?
Yes, unlimited for $30 and 100G for $25.
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I think not.
Fraid so.
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Their news server and perhaps their mail server is bit sluggish,
I don’t use the ISP's either of those.
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but that probably not going to bother you.
Yeah, I couldn’t care less about that because I don’t use them.
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The TPG coverage map claims I wouldn’t get any better
than 8K on ADSL2+ tho, so that may be quite academic
and the better value dodo or exetel plans are the way to go.
I haven't tried leaning on iinet and asking them if they
will match those tho given that I have been with them
for quite literally 10 fucking years now.
Just did, and they wont.
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For me, I've never had to call their technical support for nearly five
years.
Yeah, I didn’t with iinet until just now.
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I'm on their DSLAM. My girl friend's 'off-net' ADSL deal with TPG took
about week and a halfto get it running due to Telstra issue with a line
fault.
She complained to the TPG and asked for compensation. TPG kept calling
her for days and left messages, which she didn't bother to reply.
Being in a regional exchange with no TPG hardware on it, she gets
better speeds than me.
I think they are pretty good now with both tech support and customer
service.
Yeah, a couple of mates of mine use them and have no complaints.
One did early on, but that was a while ago now, years.
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Then I can't find 6 month contracts with them either.
That’s what I got for the turks, twice.
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TPG chages $60 for connection with their six month contracts. Very
good thing IMO.
Forget what iinet charges.
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iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you
up to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your
lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
True. But that leaving fee comes to no lower than $150.
Don’t think that’s right, but only a dill leaves in less than 6 months
anyway.
Could be wrong, 'cos I didn't have to deal with iinet for a long time now.
But, I did spend half hour on the phone with them in order to get my
girl friend a good ADSL deal with them for her.
It turned out their deals are pretty crappy for her area since she's
not in their DSLAM.
TPG deal was the best I could find after extensive research.
BTW, I ignored all the long term contracts and only filtered out the
deals less than 12 months contract.
Strictly speaking your should actually work out what it costs to
leave before the contract expires. That’s the real cost that matters.
That does vary quite a bit.
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Basically, they want the money back for the connection fee if you
leave them early.
Sure, but that’s reasonable.
Yes, considering most companies have a contract break fee, which is
much higher than the initial maximum connection fee.
Not with iinet. It doesn’t cost all that much if you have used most
of the contract.
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That's what happened to me with their Naked DSL.
I was more upset about the bad connection problems and they weren't
able to fix it for months.
If they can't deliver a usable service, you get all your money back.
That's where I stuffed up. Since I was working two jobs, didn't have
the clarity of mind to work out it's my right.
I got the CSG completely wrong, apparently.
Yeah. And that’s just the time it takes them too, you
are still legally entitled to the service you paid for
or your money back quite separately to the CSG.
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Like you said, it could've been Telstra problem(iinet told me they
were using their own DSLAM though).
Yeah, they do with the naked service. Could have been the line tho.
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But, iinet still have the responsiblity for me under the cnontract though.
Yep, and when they couldn’t deliver what you had paid
for, you were legally entitled to all your money back.
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May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Never seen that on their website.
Its pretty obvious.
Ok. better have a look again.
One quirk with exetel is that their contract periods
vary with the service you are buying.
That’s always put me off them, very complex mess of plans.
But it turns out that only the wide coverage plans are
available here which simplifys things considerably.
But they cant sell me a phone service here, so that complicates things too.
That’s one area where dodo wins for some reason.
And I know they can because the fella that came
back from china went with them and has it.
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if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Yeah, I dunno how that happened.
iinet did take over one of the local ISPs too.
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That's odd. iinet had been sending me emails telling me about their
DSLAM rollout plans back then.
I think they do more than reselling Telstra products.
Yes they do, but not with my exchange.
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I do think they have their own DSLAMs in many areas.
Only in the capital city burbs the last time I checked.
Yep. I think that's all they can afford. They've parently invested in
the NBN as well(if I'm right).
Yes, they have, they were one of the first to offer NBN plans.
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Not bad for a small operation started not that long ago in Perth.
I think I took the experience with their Naked DSL issue pretty hard,
since I had been a faithful
iinet subscriber since the dawn of the millennium.
I can't stand their ad campaign with the silly looking guy though.
Wonder if he's related to the CEO or if he's the actual CEO. :-))
I have never even seen their ads. They don’t advertise here.
TPG does, but they flog what they can't provide here.
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My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but
she still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
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What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by
sending a non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price
is $15 for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days
whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs
before you know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
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Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to
connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
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Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not
if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action
by consumers(if I'm correct).
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Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
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and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard
isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
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I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that
detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
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The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
That's what I started doing. Collecting my own tools to do all the work
as well.
I did it the other way. Went to visit my parents who had just
had a house built for them using an architect and builder, a
rather unusual type of post and beam construction that
allowed you do see how it was done with the exposed beams.
Decided that that was as easy as falling off a log,
bought the land as soon as I got home and started
building. The land only cost me $3.5K with a pay
it off scheme from the NSW govt that flogged the land.
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It's one hell of a project.
Wonder how long it took you to finish it!
Couple of years quite literally with all the spare time building.
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The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
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And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose
wires in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Looks like it might need charging twice a day when using it actively.
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Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Since I don’t move around when doing it, its just putting
it on the charger twice a day instead of every few days.
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So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
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So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
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Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
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Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
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I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
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I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
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Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to
know why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind
his own business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do
about government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
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Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
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Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
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Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
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I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
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Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to
deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
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Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
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but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
That because their CEO started aquiring smaller companies and grew bigger.
Yep.
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Very smart move since he started doing that very early in the DSL business.
Yep. Only real glitch was when they fucked up the calculations
and had to admit they fucked up the books one time.
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Exetel basically resells Optus products. In the areas Optus have their
hardware, Extel deal is very good.
Yeah, I didn’t use it myself because I wasn’t confident
that they would survive. And their web site is a mess.
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TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
That depends. I pay $30 for 50Gig. With iinet I can't find a deal that good.
I was talking about the support, not the price.
TPG is getting better in that department. They are far better than the
early days of bad support.
They'd want to be.
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IMO, TPG deal is the best for the money.
Dodo and Exetel are significantly cheaper here, essentially
because TPG doesn’t offer phone and internet bundled here.
Wonder why!!! If their particular DSLAM doesn't support the phone line they
usually offer,
then I would think they would resell the Telstra phone and still make it to
a bundle.
Obviously, they don't do it everwhere.
I myself didn't signup for their bundle, but that because I prefer plain old
fax machine, rather than voip fax or internet fax.
TPG landline doesn't support plain old fax machines.
My trick is to get Telstra budget line and then combine it with a dirt
cheap TPG DSL deal. Then get a decent voip deal like
MNF or Skype for outgoing landline calls, 'cos budget line outgoing calls
can be expensive.

Both Dodo and Exetel demands 24 month contracts to get their cheap deals.
TPG doesn't demand that.
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OTOH we appear to be out of ADSL2+ ports here on the Telstra
That obviously because the goons can't be bothered. They are obviously
focusing on the NBN.
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DSLAMs and TPG does have free ADSL2+ ports, at least in theory.
Not at all clear what Telstra is planning to do about adding
new ports, whether they arent doing that anymore now that
they have sold out to the NBN or what
I believe they have. The probelm is the drag. Seems to be going forever.
And I wonder which parameters they use to decide the priority areas for NBN
rollout.
I get the feeling it's a total mess and decisions come out of their arse,
may be??!!
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. I'll have to ask the
tech when he shows up to fix the fault, allegedly this morning.
They claim I will get NBN in less than a year.
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The TPG coverage map claims I wouldn’t get any better
than 8K on ADSL2+ tho, so that may be quite academic
and the better value dodo or exetel plans are the way to go.
I haven't tried leaning on iinet and asking them if they
will match those tho given that I have been with them
for quite literally 10 fucking years now.
No shit. That breaks my record. I started with them back in 2000 and went
until 2008. I think I had a very short affair with TPG in between that time
which ended up bitter back then. That because TPG was hiring schoold dropout
nerdy kids for tech support and paying them peanuts to hang up on customers.
If I didn't try iinet Naked DSL, I would still be with them.
I doubt they will customise plans to suit long term customers. AFAIK,
nobody does that.
Electricy retailers do that. I'm yet to see ISPs do that.
You could give it a go though, threatening to leave?!!! :-)
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For me, I've never had to call their technical support for nearly five
years.
Yeah, I didn’t with iinet until just now.
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I'm on their DSLAM. My girl friend's 'off-net' ADSL deal with TPG took
about week and a halfto get it running due to Telstra issue with a line
fault.
She complained to the TPG and asked for compensation. TPG kept calling
her for days and left messages, which she didn't bother to reply.
Being in a regional exchange with no TPG hardware on it, she gets better
speeds than me.
I think they are pretty good now with both tech support and customer
service.
Yeah, a couple of mates of mine use them and have no complaints.
One did early on, but that was a while ago now, years.
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Then I can't find 6 month contracts with them either.
That’s what I got for the turks, twice.
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TPG chages $60 for connection with their six month contracts. Very good
thing IMO.
Forget what iinet charges.
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iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you
up to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your
lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
True. But that leaving fee comes to no lower than $150.
Don’t think that’s right, but only a dill leaves in less than 6 months
anyway.
Could be wrong, 'cos I didn't have to deal with iinet for a long time now.
But, I did spend half hour on the phone with them in order to get my girl
friend a good ADSL deal with them for her.
It turned out their deals are pretty crappy for her area since she's not
in their DSLAM.
TPG deal was the best I could find after extensive research.
BTW, I ignored all the long term contracts and only filtered out the
deals less than 12 months contract.
Strictly speaking your should actually work out what it costs to
leave before the contract expires. That’s the real cost that matters.
That does vary quite a bit.
Yes. Even TPG charges a contract break fee. I guess you can't have
everything.
For me, I like the idea to give ISPs the finger is they starts farting
around, hence the reason
for the preference of short contracts or no contracts. 24 month contracts
are bit too long for me,
considering how long I'm planning to hang around. :-)
I have no complaints about iinet wanting their money back which they don't
charge if you sign up for a 24 month contract.
That's a decent thing to do, as long as they don't make the disconnection
exit fee too high.
Currently around $120-$150, right?!
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Basically, they want the money back for the connection fee if you leave
them early.
Sure, but that’s reasonable.
Yes, considering most companies have a contract break fee, which is much
higher than the initial maximum connection fee.
Not with iinet. It doesn’t cost all that much if you have used most
of the contract.
You mean, they adjust the contract break fee, based on how much of that
you have fullfilled the contract term?!
I know that's how it works with TPG, so the contract break fee is quite
small towards the end of the contract.

My Naked DSL contract was 24 months. I've used up around 19 months of it
before I decided to let them go.
They still demanded the $150 disconnection fee as initially stated in the
contract.
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That's what happened to me with their Naked DSL.
I was more upset about the bad connection problems and they weren't
able to fix it for months.
If they can't deliver a usable service, you get all your money back.
That's where I stuffed up. Since I was working two jobs, didn't have the
clarity of mind to work out it's my right.
I got the CSG completely wrong, apparently.
Yeah. And that’s just the time it takes them too, you
are still legally entitled to the service you paid for
or your money back quite separately to the CSG.
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Like you said, it could've been Telstra problem(iinet told me they were
using their own DSLAM though).
Yeah, they do with the naked service. Could have been the line tho.
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But, iinet still have the responsiblity for me under the cnontract though.
Yep, and when they couldn’t deliver what you had paid
for, you were legally entitled to all your money back.
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May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Never seen that on their website.
Its pretty obvious.
Ok. better have a look again.
One quirk with exetel is that their contract periods
vary with the service you are buying.
That’s always put me off them, very complex mess of plans.
But it turns out that only the wide coverage plans are
available here which simplifys things considerably.
But they cant sell me a phone service here, so that complicates things too.
That’s one area where dodo wins for some reason.
And I know they can because the fella that came
back from china went with them and has it.
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if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Yeah, I dunno how that happened.
iinet did take over one of the local ISPs too.
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That's odd. iinet had been sending me emails telling me about their
DSLAM rollout plans back then.
I think they do more than reselling Telstra products.
Yes they do, but not with my exchange.
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I do think they have their own DSLAMs in many areas.
Only in the capital city burbs the last time I checked.
Yep. I think that's all they can afford. They've parently invested in the
NBN as well(if I'm right).
Yes, they have, they were one of the first to offer NBN plans.
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Not bad for a small operation started not that long ago in Perth.
I think I took the experience with their Naked DSL issue pretty hard,
since I had been a faithful
iinet subscriber since the dawn of the millennium.
I can't stand their ad campaign with the silly looking guy though.
Wonder if he's related to the CEO or if he's the actual CEO. :-))
I have never even seen their ads. They don’t advertise here.
TPG does, but they flog what they can't provide here.
Yeah, they have been running a TV commercial campaign with a nerdy looking
skinny bearded guy.
It's been years now with him and him only, which I believe is a really cheap
and crappy TV commercial campaign.
I don't think they can afford young blonde models like dodo or TPG. :-))
TPG runs a billboard campaigns too, very effective IMO. And they also hire
shop owner's walls for ad campaigns.
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My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
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What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by
sending a non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is
$15 for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days
whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before
you know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to
connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
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Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod
need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major
cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes
moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe
not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action
by consumers(if I'm correct).
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Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
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and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard
isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
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I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that
detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
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The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
That's what I started doing. Collecting my own tools to do all the
work as well.
I did it the other way. Went to visit my parents who had just
had a house built for them using an architect and builder, a
rather unusual type of post and beam construction that
allowed you do see how it was done with the exposed beams.
Decided that that was as easy as falling off a log,
bought the land as soon as I got home and started
building. The land only cost me $3.5K with a pay
it off scheme from the NSW govt that flogged the land.
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It's one hell of a project.
Wonder how long it took you to finish it!
Couple of years quite literally with all the spare time building.
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The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
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And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose
wires in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Looks like it might need charging twice a day when using it actively.
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Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Since I don’t move around when doing it, its just putting
it on the charger twice a day instead of every few days.
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So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
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So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
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Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
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Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
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I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
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I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
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Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to
know why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind
his own business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do
about government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
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Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
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Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when
you don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
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Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
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I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
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Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to
deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
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Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
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but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
That because their CEO started aquiring smaller companies and grew bigger.
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Very smart move since he started doing that very early in the DSL business.
Yep. Only real glitch was when they fucked up the calculations
and had to admit they fucked up the books one time.
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Exetel basically resells Optus products. In the areas Optus have their
hardware, Extel deal is very good.
Yeah, I didn’t use it myself because I wasn’t confident
that they would survive. And their web site is a mess.
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TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
That depends. I pay $30 for 50Gig. With iinet I can't find a deal that good.
I was talking about the support, not the price.
TPG is getting better in that department. They are far better than the
early days of bad support.
They'd want to be.
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IMO, TPG deal is the best for the money.
Dodo and Exetel are significantly cheaper here, essentially
because TPG doesn’t offer phone and internet bundled here.
Wonder why!!!
Yeah, wondered why myself. They appear to do the DSLAMS two
different ways. One way allows them to do the phone service over
the copper pair and the other doesn’t. And they don’t bother to
resell the Telstra phone service when they don’t provide it themselves.
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If their particular DSLAM doesn't support the phone line they usually
offer, then I would think they would resell the Telstra phone and still
make it to a bundle.
Yeah, mad IMO given that almost everyone else does that.
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Obviously, they don't do it everwhere.
I myself didn't signup for their bundle, but that because I prefer plain
old fax machine, rather than voip fax or internet fax.
TPG landline doesn't support plain old fax machines.
My trick is to get Telstra budget line and then combine it with a dirt
cheap TPG DSL deal.
Currently the Telstra web page on HomeLine Budget says
that you agree to not do that. Presumably that’s pure bluff
and they cant legally enforce that.
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Then get a decent voip deal like MNF or Skype for outgoing landline calls,
'cos budget line outgoing calls can be expensive.
Yeah, I've got that already.
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Both Dodo and Exetel demands 24 month contracts to get their cheap deals.
No they don’t. 12 months is fine.

Telstra even allows no contract at all, but you do pay more per month that
way.

I don’t plan to stay with them even for a month.
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TPG doesn't demand that.
They do require 6 months tho.
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OTOH we appear to be out of ADSL2+ ports here on the Telstra
That obviously because the goons can't be bothered. They are obviously
focusing on the NBN.
Yeah, I assume so. But they are definitely adding more today.

The tech did say that they are adding nowhere near
as many more as they would do without the NBN.
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DSLAMs and TPG does have free ADSL2+ ports, at least in theory.
Not at all clear what Telstra is planning to do about adding
new ports, whether they arent doing that anymore now that
they have sold out to the NBN or what
I believe they have. The probelm is the drag. Seems to be going forever.
Yeah, and now with the coalition planning to go for FTTN instead of
FTTP, it remains to be seen what will happen with that once they win.
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And I wonder which parameters they use to decide the priority areas for
NBN rollout.
Some of it appears to be political, mostly obviously with the
NBN rollout in Tony Windsor's electorate, and with Oakshit too.

Not all of it is tho, most obviously with the initial Tasmanian rollout.
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I get the feeling it's a total mess and decisions come out of their arse,
may be??!!
Yeah, there has to be a lot of that. Presumably country areas
are generally at the back of the list if only because its more
expensive to do those because the crews wont be living there.

We have seen a very early rollout of the NBN wireless service
in the small villages at the edge of town here tho. They have
just got approval for the towers and are due soon here.
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. I'll have to ask the tech when he shows up to fix the fault, allegedly
this morning.
They claim I will get NBN in less than a year.
Its longer than that here, forget exactly how long because
I don’t believe the plans will be met given the change in govt.
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The TPG coverage map claims I wouldn’t get any better
than 8K on ADSL2+ tho, so that may be quite academic
and the better value dodo or exetel plans are the way to go.
I haven't tried leaning on iinet and asking them if they
will match those tho given that I have been with them
for quite literally 10 fucking years now.
No shit.
Yeah, surprised me when I saw it listed.
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That breaks my record. I started with them back in 2000 and went
until 2008. I think I had a very short affair with TPG in between that
time which ended up bitter back then. That because TPG was hiring schoold
dropout nerdy kids for tech support and paying them peanuts to hang up on
customers.
Most of the Telstra ones I have been talking to lately appear to
be in the Philippines or somewhere. Not that competent either
with the problem I had using the iphone wifi hotspot.
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If I didn't try iinet Naked DSL, I would still be with them.
I've just decided to give up on them because they wont
even resell Telstra ADSL2. You can only get ADSL2 from
them if they have their own DSLAMs in your exchange.

Dodo and Exetel are happy to resell Telstra ADSL2.

Exetel resell Optus ADSL2+ too, but they arent in my exchange.
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I doubt they will customise plans to suit long term customers.
Yeah, they said categorically that they will not on the plan fee.

They will to some extent with the other stuff like a free BoB modem etc.
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AFAIK, nobody does that.
Electricy retailers do that. I'm yet to see ISPs do that.
You could give it a go though, threatening to leave?!!! :-)
I did. And had them say that they'd rather I didn't
but that they couldn’t do anything about the fees.
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For me, I've never had to call their technical support for nearly five
years.
Yeah, I didn’t with iinet until just now.
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I'm on their DSLAM. My girl friend's 'off-net' ADSL deal with TPG took
about week and a halfto get it running due to Telstra issue with a line
fault.
She complained to the TPG and asked for compensation. TPG kept calling
her for days and left messages, which she didn't bother to reply.
Being in a regional exchange with no TPG hardware on it, she gets better
speeds than me.
I think they are pretty good now with both tech support and customer
service.
Yeah, a couple of mates of mine use them and have no complaints.
One did early on, but that was a while ago now, years.
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Then I can't find 6 month contracts with them either.
That’s what I got for the turks, twice.
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TPG chages $60 for connection with their six month contracts. Very
good thing IMO.
Forget what iinet charges.
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iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you
up to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your
lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
True. But that leaving fee comes to no lower than $150.
Don’t think that’s right, but only a dill leaves in less than 6 months
anyway.
Could be wrong, 'cos I didn't have to deal with iinet for a long time now.
But, I did spend half hour on the phone with them in order to get my
girl friend a good ADSL deal with them for her.
It turned out their deals are pretty crappy for her area since she's not
in their DSLAM.
TPG deal was the best I could find after extensive research.
BTW, I ignored all the long term contracts and only filtered out the
deals less than 12 months contract.
Strictly speaking your should actually work out what it costs to
leave before the contract expires. That’s the real cost that matters.
That does vary quite a bit.
Yes. Even TPG charges a contract break fee.
Telstra doesn’t with their casual plans surprisingly enough.
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I guess you can't have everything.
For me, I like the idea to give ISPs the finger is they starts farting
around, hence the reason for the preference of short contracts or no
contracts.
Yeah, I'd certainly do that if their support
is hopeless and I did need to use it.
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24 month contracts are bit too long for me,
Yeah, I did have one with the initial ADSL service with
Telstra but only did that because I had no choice with
Telstra and I didn’t like the idea of getting the initial
service from anyone else when ADSL first became available
and it wasn’t at all clear how it would go faults wise.

Turned out it was pretty reliable so that was just theoretical.
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considering how long I'm planning to hang around. :-)
I have no complaints about iinet wanting their money back which they don't
charge if you sign up for a 24 month contract.
That's a decent thing to do, as long as they don't make the disconnection
exit fee too high.
Currently around $120-$150, right?!
It varys with the amount of time left on the contract.

It wasn’t as much as that when the turks wanted to cancel their
DSL while they were out of the country for 5 months with just
one month to go on the 6 month contract. But still worth paying
for one more month instead of cancelling.
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Basically, they want the money back for the connection fee if you
leave them early.
Sure, but that’s reasonable.
Yes, considering most companies have a contract break fee, which is much
higher than the initial maximum connection fee.
Not with iinet. It doesn’t cost all that much if you have used most
of the contract.
You mean, they adjust the contract break fee, based on how much of that
you have fullfilled the contract term?!
Yep, that’s pretty common. That’s certainly what Telstra and iinet do.
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I know that's how it works with TPG, so the contract break fee is quite
small towards the end of the contract.
Yeah, I haven't noticed anyone that doesn’t do it like that.
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My Naked DSL contract was 24 months. I've used up around 19 months of it
before I decided to let them go.
They still demanded the $150 disconnection fee as initially stated in the
contract.
I guess that makes sense with a naked plan which does
cost them a lot more up front that they pay to Telstra.

Think the ACCC forced Telstra to reduce what they charge for that too.
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That's what happened to me with their Naked DSL.
I was more upset about the bad connection problems and they weren't
able to fix it for months.
If they can't deliver a usable service, you get all your money back.
That's where I stuffed up. Since I was working two jobs, didn't have the
clarity of mind to work out it's my right.
I got the CSG completely wrong, apparently.
Yeah. And that’s just the time it takes them too, you
are still legally entitled to the service you paid for
or your money back quite separately to the CSG.
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Like you said, it could've been Telstra problem(iinet told me they
were using their own DSLAM though).
Yeah, they do with the naked service. Could have been the line tho.
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But, iinet still have the responsiblity for me under the cnontract though.
Yep, and when they couldn’t deliver what you had paid
for, you were legally entitled to all your money back.
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May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Never seen that on their website.
Its pretty obvious.
Ok. better have a look again.
One quirk with exetel is that their contract periods
vary with the service you are buying.
That’s always put me off them, very complex mess of plans.
But it turns out that only the wide coverage plans are
available here which simplifys things considerably.
But they cant sell me a phone service here, so that complicates things too.
That’s one area where dodo wins for some reason.
And I know they can because the fella that came
back from china went with them and has it.
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if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Yeah, I dunno how that happened.
iinet did take over one of the local ISPs too.
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That's odd. iinet had been sending me emails telling me about their
DSLAM rollout plans back then.
I think they do more than reselling Telstra products.
Yes they do, but not with my exchange.
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I do think they have their own DSLAMs in many areas.
Only in the capital city burbs the last time I checked.
Yep. I think that's all they can afford. They've parently invested in
the NBN as well(if I'm right).
Yes, they have, they were one of the first to offer NBN plans.
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Not bad for a small operation started not that long ago in Perth.
I think I took the experience with their Naked DSL issue pretty hard,
since I had been a faithful
iinet subscriber since the dawn of the millennium.
I can't stand their ad campaign with the silly looking guy though.
Wonder if he's related to the CEO or if he's the actual CEO. :-))
I have never even seen their ads. They don’t advertise here.
TPG does, but they flog what they can't provide here.
Yeah, they have been running a TV commercial campaign with a nerdy looking
skinny bearded guy.
Likely the same one on the web site.
Definitely not Malone

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It's been years now with him and him only, which I believe is a really
cheap and crappy TV commercial campaign.
Malone always had had some pretty strong ideas.

He likely thinks it’s a much better ad.
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I don't think they can afford young blonde models like dodo or TPG. :-))
There arent any of those in our TPG ads.

Forget the dodo ads, I don’t watch ads voluntarily,
watch all free to air TV recorded and skip the ads.
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TPG runs a billboard campaigns too, very effective IMO.
You do have to wonder if billboard sell much today tho.
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And they also hire shop owner's walls for ad campaigns.
Haven't seen any of those here. Lots of ads on TV tho.
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My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but
she still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
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What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by
sending a non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is
$15 for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days
whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before
you know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
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2013-06-15 02:20:58 UTC
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Post by Rod Speed
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Mine seems to go for 16 hours at home I leave it plugged in to
computers USB to keep fully charged. To change the battery in it is
very easy though.
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Damian
2013-06-18 12:23:58 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:07:09 +1000, "Damian"
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Post by Rod Speed
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Mine seems to go for 16 hours at home I leave it plugged in to
computers USB to keep fully charged. To change the battery in it is
very easy though.
Mine goes for about 24 hours, but it's new phone with new battery.
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2013-06-18 12:40:17 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:07:09 +1000, "Damian"
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Post by Rod Speed
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Mine seems to go for 16 hours at home I leave it plugged in to
computers USB to keep fully charged. To change the battery in it is
very easy though.
Mine goes for about 24 hours, but it's new phone with new battery.
You need tosign up with "googleplay" to get Android Apps they seem to
look at your device and tell you if compatible.
https://play.google.com/apps
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Damian
2013-06-19 04:21:46 UTC
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:23:58 +1000, "Damian"
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:07:09 +1000, "Damian"
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Post by Rod Speed
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Same problem here. Using 3G eats up the battery in no time.
I'm guessing the only solution is the auxiliary battery back.
Mine seems to go for 16 hours at home I leave it plugged in to
computers USB to keep fully charged. To change the battery in it is
very easy though.
Mine goes for about 24 hours, but it's new phone with new battery.
You need tosign up with "googleplay" to get Android Apps they seem to
look at your device and tell you if compatible.
https://play.google.com/apps
Of course! Mine came with Googleplay factory installed. Not sure what you
meant by compatible though.
What apps are you referring to?!
Weren't we talking about the battery time on 3G, above?!
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2013-06-19 06:42:08 UTC
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Post by Petzl
You need tosign up with "googleplay" to get Android Apps they seem to
look at your device and tell you if compatible.
https://play.google.com/apps
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Of course! Mine came with Googleplay factory installed. Not sure what you
meant by compatible though.
What apps are you referring to?!
Weren't we talking about the battery time on 3G, above?!
Click the link above and sign in
If you have APP's installed from there, the site will tell you
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On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:09:32 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
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Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
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and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
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I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects
as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
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The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
How did you manage to do that?! Did you do your own house plan?
Bricklaying, carpentry and floor work?!
I'm going down a similar path.
I would appreciate some information.
Thanks
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The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
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And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose wires
in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
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So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
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So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
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Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
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Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
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I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
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I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
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Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to know
why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind his own
business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do about
government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
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Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
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Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
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Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
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I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
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Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to deal
with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
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Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
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but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
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TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
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iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you up to
sign up with them with their contracts as long as your lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
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May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
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if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
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My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
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What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange where
I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a
non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever
comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before you
know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
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On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:09:32 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
Post by Damian
and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects
as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
Post by Damian
The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
How did you manage to do that?!
It was a hell of a lot of work for a couple of years.

Just a tad more work than say making a coffee table
or bookshelves, but used a lot more when done too.
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Did you do your own house plan?
Yep, and not just any old house plan either,
very fancy passive solar design.
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Bricklaying,
Yes.
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carpentry
There is very little of that, but yes, that too.
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and floor work?!
Did all the preparation, digging the trenches etc,
putting up the shuttering, doing all the mesh etc.
With a quite fancy system of vertical 4x2RHS columns
up each side of the 13 massive great patio doors that
are the only windows in most rooms except the kitchen
and bathrooms and toilets.

Did get a concreter to actually pour the concrete,
essentially because if you get that wrong, its one
hell of a disaster with no way to practice or fix
the problem apart from jack hammering it all out
and doing it again at a big cost in new concrete.

Got the hilarious result that the local council told
the local builders to have a look at how the mesh
was done, because that’s how its meant to be done.

They don’t bother to use bar chairs, they just hook
the mesh up with a big steel hand held hook as the
mesh is poured. The council inspectors hate that
because there is no way to check what height the
mesh is in the concrete when its done like that.

Didn’t do the plumbing myself because that’s not
legal. What I should have done was to get the plumber
to do the absolute minimum and done the rest myself
later, but didn’t think of that till later.

Did all the electric wiring myself, even tho that’s not
legal and got an electrician to claim he had done it.
Post by Damian
I'm going down a similar path.
I would appreciate some information.
Thanks
Its as hell of a lot of work, and it’s a
massive great house, but well worth it.

I worked out that I made more money in those years than
the boss of the place I was working at the time, essentially
because the capital gain is tax free.
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Post by Rod Speed
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose wires
in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
Post by Damian
Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
Post by Damian
I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
Post by Damian
I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
Post by Damian
Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to know
why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind his own
business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do about
government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
Post by Damian
Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
Post by Damian
Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
Post by Damian
I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
Post by Damian
Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to
deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
Post by Damian
Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
Post by Damian
but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
Post by Damian
TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
Post by Damian
iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you up
to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
Post by Damian
May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Post by Damian
if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Post by Damian
My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
Post by Damian
What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending a
non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is $15
for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days whatever
comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before you
know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
Post by Petzl
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Damian
2013-06-19 14:20:37 UTC
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Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:09:32 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
Post by Damian
and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
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Post by Damian
I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that detects
as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
Post by Damian
The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
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when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
How did you manage to do that?!
It was a hell of a lot of work for a couple of years.
Just a tad more work than say making a coffee table
or bookshelves, but used a lot more when done too.
Post by Damian
Did you do your own house plan?
Yep, and not just any old house plan either,
very fancy passive solar design.
Post by Damian
Bricklaying,
Yes.
Post by Damian
carpentry
There is very little of that, but yes, that too.
Post by Damian
and floor work?!
Did all the preparation, digging the trenches etc,
putting up the shuttering, doing all the mesh etc.
With a quite fancy system of vertical 4x2RHS columns
up each side of the 13 massive great patio doors that
are the only windows in most rooms except the kitchen
and bathrooms and toilets.
Did get a concreter to actually pour the concrete,
essentially because if you get that wrong, its one
hell of a disaster with no way to practice or fix
the problem apart from jack hammering it all out
and doing it again at a big cost in new concrete.
Not sure how you can get the pouring the concrete wrong.
It can be pretty laborious for sure, but considering you've done the other
more demanding work yourself,
I thought you could have a good crack at it yourself, but back breaking for
sure.
But again, google or youtube wasn't around back then, was it?! :-)
It's pretty expensive thing to do these days, as one of my mates pointed
out.
He did most of the carpentry and floor work himself, but got the part of the
backyard concreted, and was complaining how
expensive it was. I asked him why couldn't hire the equipment and do it
himself.
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Got the hilarious result that the local council told
the local builders to have a look at how the mesh
was done, because that’s how its meant to be done.
They don’t bother to use bar chairs, they just hook
the mesh up with a big steel hand held hook as the
mesh is poured. The council inspectors hate that
because there is no way to check what height the
mesh is in the concrete when its done like that.
Didn’t do the plumbing myself because that’s not
legal.
Well, that's some news for me. Plumbing was that regulated even back then!
I would still go ahead and do it myself and get a plumber to certify it
though. :-)
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What I should have done was to get the plumber
to do the absolute minimum and done the rest myself
later, but didn’t think of that till later.
Did all the electric wiring myself, even tho that’s not
legal and got an electrician to claim he had done it.
That's most certainly what I'm going to do. I can't think of a better
electrician than myself.
If it turns out to be messy process, then I would get the license myself.
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Post by Damian
I'm going down a similar path.
I would appreciate some information.
Thanks
Its as hell of a lot of work, and it’s a
massive great house, but well worth it.
I'm on the path to a double story or even more if the circumstances allow me
to.
I like the idea of preserving the land as much as I can for my hobby &
growing stuff.
I also believe in having a sub floor. What do you think of that?! Having a
sub floor means using a fair bit of timber, I guess, right??!
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I worked out that I made more money in those years than
the boss of the place I was working at the time, essentially
because the capital gain is tax free.
Which planet was that??!!!
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Post by Damian
The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
Post by Damian
And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose wires
in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
Post by Damian
So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
Post by Damian
So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
Post by Damian
Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
Post by Damian
Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
Post by Damian
I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
Post by Damian
I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
Post by Damian
Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to know
why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind his own
business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do about
government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
Post by Damian
Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
Post by Damian
Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
Post by Damian
Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
Post by Damian
I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
Post by Damian
Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to
deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
Post by Damian
Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
Post by Damian
but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
Post by Damian
TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
Post by Damian
iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you up
to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
Post by Damian
May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
Post by Damian
if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
Post by Damian
My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
Post by Damian
What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
Post by Damian
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending
a non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
Post by Damian
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is
$15 for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days
whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
Post by Damian
It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before
you know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
Post by Petzl
Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
Post by Petzl
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
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Post by Petzl
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:46:37 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 19:09:32 +1000, "Damian"
Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet
surfing on
the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
Another option is to use your exsisting Android Mobile >to connect to
Well, apparently that's what I'm doing with Kogan simcard.
According to my smartphone, Kogan simcard is not 3G.
Is that right??!!!
Kogan use Telstra 3G but if you need longer battery life select 2G
Post by Damian
Internet (someone here suggested it, looks good). Sorry Rod need to
find a Iphone App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_polyclef&hl=en
Amaysim offer on Optus 3G network some good prepay deals
https://www.amaysim.com.au/mobile-plans/amaysim-mobile-broadband.html
Telstra usually the best network to connect to outside Major cities
Aldi have some deals here (I use mainly WiFi only sometimes moblle
data)
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Kogan you need to read their fineprint seem good but maybe not if you
can work out what you are paying for and what you CAN get
http://tinyurl.com/lqpo2q4 Kogan seem to of fixed this?
Vodaphone IMO seem a scam unreliable not to be trusted in my
experience
Yep. That's the reason they are being chased via a class action by
consumers(if I'm correct).
Post by Petzl
Post by Damian
Isn't he(Kogan) primarily use Vodafone network?!
He was using the Telstra 3G network?
So, I wonder why it's pretty bad at some location within metro
That happens even with a Telstra sim.
Post by Damian
and also my phone (ALDI Bauhn smartphone) says the Kogan simcard isn't 3G.
Presumably you have managed to tell it to use the 2G service.
Yeah, I think that may be the issue, if I rule out any software or
hardware issues with this smartphone.
Post by Rod Speed
Post by Damian
I have Savvytel prepaid simcard in the same phone, but that
detects as 3G(Optus 3G network).
But, not the Kogan simcard though.
Because the two services are different in detail on that 2G/3G stuff.
Post by Damian
The phone is a dual sim one(Android OS)
What do you think I'm doing wrong here?!!!
Your usual, everything you touch turns to dog shit.
Yeah?!!! we'll see how you go with your iphone 5, you smart arse! ;-)
I've seen, it hasn’t bitten me even once yet.
I know it's a good unit. But, far too expensive for me
Yeah, that’s certainly the main downside with it.
Tho the 4 and 4S are more reasonably priced
and still available and you don’t lose much.
Post by Damian
when I try to save some money to buy a dump to live in.
Yeah, I fixed that problem 40 years ago by building it myself from scratch.
How did you manage to do that?!
It was a hell of a lot of work for a couple of years.
Just a tad more work than say making a coffee table
or bookshelves, but used a lot more when done too.
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Did you do your own house plan?
Yep, and not just any old house plan either,
very fancy passive solar design.
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Bricklaying,
Yes.
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carpentry
There is very little of that, but yes, that too.
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and floor work?!
Did all the preparation, digging the trenches etc,
putting up the shuttering, doing all the mesh etc.
With a quite fancy system of vertical 4x2RHS columns
up each side of the 13 massive great patio doors that
are the only windows in most rooms except the kitchen
and bathrooms and toilets.
Did get a concreter to actually pour the concrete,
essentially because if you get that wrong, its one
hell of a disaster with no way to practice or fix
the problem apart from jack hammering it all out
and doing it again at a big cost in new concrete.
Not sure how you can get the pouring the concrete wrong.
It sets in an hour or so. And you need to know what you are
doing getting it all level where you want it before that happens.
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It can be pretty laborious for sure, but considering you've done the other
more demanding work yourself,
The other stuff isnt as time critical and if you fuck up a
bit of wall for some reason you can pull it down, scrape
the mortar off and do it again at your leisure and the
worst you have lost is a batch of mortar that costs peanuts.
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I thought you could have a good crack at it yourself, but back breaking
for sure.
Not really when you have designed things so
the fucking great mixer truck just tips it directly
into the formwork.
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But again, google or youtube wasn't around back then, was it?! :-)
True, but there was plenty of stuff in the library and
the CSIRO Notes on the Science of Building etc.

And house building is one of those areas where you can see how
its done just by wandering around partially built houses etc.

And plenty of the trades people are only to
happy to answer any questions you might have.
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It's pretty expensive thing to do these days, as one of my mates pointed
out.
It isnt actually.
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He did most of the carpentry and floor work himself, but got the part of
the backyard concreted, and was complaining how expensive it was. I asked
him why couldn't hire the equipment and do it himself.
Its not as easy as it looks with house slabs.
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Got the hilarious result that the local council told
the local builders to have a look at how the mesh
was done, because that’s how its meant to be done.
They don’t bother to use bar chairs, they just hook
the mesh up with a big steel hand held hook as the
mesh is poured. The council inspectors hate that
because there is no way to check what height the
mesh is in the concrete when its done like that.
Didn’t do the plumbing myself because that’s not legal.
Well, that's some news for me. Plumbing was that regulated even back then!
Yeah, technically you arent even sposed to change the tap
washer yourself.
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I would still go ahead and do it myself and get a plumber to certify it
though. :-)
They legally can't do that.

They have to claim they did it themselves.

And it isnt any old plumber either, just like with electricians.
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What I should have done was to get the plumber
to do the absolute minimum and done the rest myself later, but didn’t
think of that till later.
Did all the electric wiring myself, even tho that’s not
legal and got an electrician to claim he had done it.
That's most certainly what I'm going to do.
Yeah, its very easy to do.
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I can't think of a better electrician than myself.
If it turns out to be messy process, then I would get the license myself.
You can't actually. You have to do the apprenticeship
and even when you are qualified you can't just get a
contractors license just by applying for one.
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I'm going down a similar path.
I would appreciate some information.
Thanks
Its as hell of a lot of work, and it’s a
massive great house, but well worth it.
I'm on the path to a double story
I don’t like those myself, even tho I have live in some.
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or even more if the circumstances allow me to.
I like the idea of preserving the land as much as I can for my hobby &
growing stuff.
I'd just get a bigger block myself. Or two adjacent.
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I also believe in having a sub floor. What do you think of that?!
Don’t like them myself. I prefer a concrete slab on the ground.
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Having a sub floor means using a fair bit of timber, I guess, right??!
Yeah, and I don’t like timber myself. The only timber
I have is the timber battens on top of the steel roof
beams just under the flat metal decking roof.

Everything else is glass, concrete and steel.
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I worked out that I made more money in those years than the boss of the
place I was working at the time, essentially because the capital gain is
tax free.
Which planet was that??!!!
Same one as yours, and its still true today.
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The only very minor quirk is that I have just had my DSL
go down for the first time in years now, quite literally.
Don't tell me you are with iinet!!!
Yep, but its Telstra resold.
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And iinet make a complete fucking dogs breakfast
of working out where the problem was yesterday.
Probably their tech goons are too incompetent to locate the loose
wires in their DSLAM.
Nar, its Telstra's DSLAM and they appear to have been
jerked around by Telstra. It will be interesting to see what
the fault turns out to be, it went down again after it had
come up for half a day, and is still down. I'm using the
3G hotspot now.
The ADSL is fine, it just can't get the PPP up and when
it does eventually get it up, it can work fine for half a
day, but if it drops again, it doesn’t get it up again.
That’s with two completely different modems, so it has
to be the line, which sounds fine, or the DSLAM line card.
The Telstra fella did show up yesterday early and found it
working, rang me to check that it was working, and just yawned
when I said it was fine. They now have an appointment next Wednesday
morning, so it will be interesting to see what happens then.
Just a minor nuisance now that the 3G wifi hotspot is working fine.
Only real downside is that it runs the iphone 5 battery
down pretty fast so you need to charge it daily or faster.
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So I decided that I might as well just use the wifi hotspot
that the iphones can do trivially to provide a net service
while the DSL was down instead of using dialup.
Only to find the that amaysim doesn’t support
the wifi hotspot with iphones, and just iphones.
Did you ask they why?
Yeah, but he basically just waffled. They appear to have found
it too hard to support judging by the comments on whirlfool.
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So I got them to cancel the 1G data pack that I had got
to use for the wifi hotspot. They were happy to do that.
So I got a telstra ipad plan on a nano sim to use instead, mainly
because I could get one locally. I can't with Kogan or Aldi.
You could've ordered online.
Not with the Aldi, but I can get someone
I know well to get one for me and post it.
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Obviously, you wanted it straightaway.
Yeah, particularly when I had no idea how long it would
be down for. It did come up just minutes after I got the
hotspot working on the laptop. But then went down
again the next day so it was certainly worth getting.
Wont ever have to fart around with dialup again.
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Then farted around trying to get that to work with the laptop
which still runs XP. Still haven't managed to get that to work
yet. Works fine with the N95 8GB so its some quirk of XP.
Only to find that the DSL came back within
minutes of discovering that the N95 works fine.
So I have just pissed $30 against the wall on the Telstra
sim which will run out in 30 days during which I am most
unlikely to see the DSL go down again.
You never know.
In fact it went down again the next day.
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I hope the iinet DSL you got ain't the Naked DSL.
Nar, it isnt offered here, its just Telstra resold here.
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I've bought $30 simcard from Telstra while ago.
I fucked that up too. Since I didn’t have any net access,
I rang the local Telstra shop to see what was the best
value as a fill in while the DSL was down. She rightly
said that the $30 sim put on an ipad plan was the
best value in that situation, give you 3G for $30.
Went into BigW to see what they had instead. Found
that they were doing a special on those SIMs at half
price, including the nano sim the iphone 5 uses.
The droid at that counter didn’t know you could put
it on an ipad plan, so I got the $30 one from the Telstra
shop instead. I could have in fact got the $15 sim from
BigW and then got Telstra to put it on an ipad plan on
the phone when authorising it myself.
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Then returned it without using it. The bloke at Woolies wanted to know
why I want to return it. He was the manager. Told him to mind his own
business about that. Then he said there's nothing he can do about
government getting hold of my information.
He's right.
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Told the idiot, they have all of my info already going back to
generations, perhaps.
And get it again when you authorise a sim online anyway.
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Moral of the story is that, use Telstra stuff directly, only when you
don't have any other choice.
Yeah, I didn’t really and paid twice the price for it.
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Still, iinet will give me some compensation for fucking up
the diagnosis of the problem so spectacularly, so that should
pay for something like half of that so its not really any big deal.
Good luck with that compensation.
I've had it before with the Turk's system that they stuffed up too.
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I dumped iinet over four years ago for good.
They're usually pretty decent, and its not too clear what happened
that time, it looks rather like Telstra was the main culprit.
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Been with TPG so long, not a single line drop or shit that I have to
deal with, and that's in addition to giving me a dirt cheap DSL deal.
Yeah, none of the people I have suggested
use it have had any problems.
I haven't myself so far mainly because of the
week or more with no DSL to change to them
because it isnt possible to fast churn to them.
Not a problem now that I have the 3G wifi hotspot.
In fact I may well do it now while I am
still in the 30days that the $30 lasts for.
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Recently found even better deal with Exetel,
Yeah, I have suggested some use that and they
haven't had any complaints about the result they got.
They change their plans as often as they change their
shirts which is the main downside from my point of view
and no 24/7 support either. I keep pretty weird hours,
start a lot earlier than almost anyone I know, so it would
be a pain in the arse to get up and find no DSL and not
even able to report it for hours. And its not a 13 number
either. No big deal when the voip is working but once
the DSL isnt, it would have been. No problem now with
the voip on the iphone now tho.
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but not worth switching, just to save six bucks a month.
Yeah, that’s the other reason I haven't changed from iinet.
I've had no confidence that exetel would last as long
and iinet is doing a lot better than TPG financially too.
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TPG has been great for me so far. They've come a long way from their
shitty old days of bad customer service.
Yeah, but still not as good as iinet IMO.
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iinet only got soft speaking Perth british immigrants to butter you up
to sign up with them with their contracts as long as your lifespan.
No they don’t. The Turks only had leaving fee if they left in less than
6 months and when they wanted to suspend after 5 months when
they all pissed off in a single 747 back to Turkey to marry off the
second youngest, they just let it run for a month longer without
being used to avoid paying even that.
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May be you could try TPG(they have very short contracts like six months),
So does iinet.
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if they have a DSLAM in your area.
They do. iinet doesn’t. In fact TPG and Telstra are the only ones that do.
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My old lady isn't in an exchange where they have a TPG DSLAM, but she
still gets good speeds and a better deal than iinet.
Yeah, it is better value than iinet, but not by all that much.
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What pisses me off is that she clocks 20Mbps in a regional exchange
where I clocked 16Mpbs in a suburban exchange. :-)
You could slash your wrists |-)
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Or is it possible Kogan might have stuffed it up for me by sending
a non 3G simcard?!!!
No, but you can tell your phone to use 2G when 3G is available.
Yes, I know. But, I'm pretty sure I did it right.
It's pretty straighforward with this android shit.
Yeah, most likely its some quirk of the dual sim android phone.
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The best deal is Aldi's for prepay Telstra data, their price is
$15 for 3 gig and don't expire until it's used or 365 days
whatever comes first.
Where does it say that $15 prepay deal comes with 3 Gig?!!!!
https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans#mobileinternet
He stuffed up, its 2G
Even worse than that.. It's only 300MB for that $15.
Yeah, but I was talking about the addon data pack, not that 300MB for $15.
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It's that it can last for a year. That's the advantage.
No way I can just be happy with a measly 300MB for a whole year.
Probably good for my grand dad.
Yeah, almost everyone would have to add data packs.
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Charges are 5 cents a megbyte.
It says it expires in 365 days.
Expiry date wise ALDI deal is good, but not the data cost though.
Still better than $10/G
Depends. If you are very measly web user, then it's good.
Just surfing on ebay and bidding, etc consumes heaps of MBs before
you know it.
Dunno, I do quite a bit of that and still stay under the 1G per month.
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Seems better than Amaysim $10 a gig expires 30 Days
Kogan and Savvytel has the same deal. Savvytel uses Optus 3G network.
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https://www.aldimobile.com.au/plans
Frank Slootweg
2013-06-11 15:56:57 UTC
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Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
I haven't read all the responses and don't know your (data volume and
other) needs, but also have a look at .... <drum roll> .... Telstra!

For example 12GB for 365 days at $180.

<http://www.telstra.com.au/internet/mobile-broadband/prepaid/rates/index.htm>

If your needed data volume is low, but you want a long *credit* (not
data) expiry period, then you may want to have a look at one of their
internet on your *mobile* (phone) pre-paid products. That's what I use
when I'm in Oz (for 2-3 months at a time). The data costs for these
'phone' products are somewhat lower than the 'laptop' products, but the
speeds are lower. I use 'phone' and 'laptop' in quotes, because you
probably can use a 'phone' SIM in a laptop and vice versa, at least that
has been the case for the 'data' SIMs I used.

See the Long Life offer (and other Pre-Paid Mobile Phone Offers) at:

<http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles/prepaid-offers>

And the Browse Plus Packs (data packs) at:

<http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles/extras>

I use the "Telstra Pre-Paid Cap Encore" offer, which is a kind of "It
doesn't cost you *anything*!" [1] kind of offer, but it has a $300
credit limit because Telstra is not *really* in the free-for-nothing
business! :-)

HTH.

[1] Yes, *really* nothing:
- Use the Long Life offer and a $20 or higher recharge to get a longer
(than 30 days) *credit* expiry time.
- Switch to the Telstra Pre-Paid Cap Encore offer.
- (For example) Recharge with $40, use upto 600MB of data or/and upto
$510 worth of calls/texts or/and free calls/texts between 6pm-6am, all
within 30 days, and after the 30 days, you *still* have all your
credit, i.e. it cost you nothing.
No, I couldn't believe it either, until I discovered the $300 credit
limit, i.e. you can use this trick for about five times maximum and then
you have to start paying for *something*. Anyway, not bad, not bad at
all!
Damian
2013-06-14 01:27:28 UTC
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Post by Damian
Hi fellas,
I'm after a cheap 3G mobile sim card, primarily for internet surfing on the
fly.
Are there any cheap deals out there?!
I'm hoping for a prepaid service.
Thanks
I haven't read all the responses and don't know your (data volume and
other) needs, but also have a look at .... <drum roll> .... Telstra!
For example 12GB for 365 days at $180.
<http://www.telstra.com.au/internet/mobile-broadband/prepaid/rates/index.htm>
If your needed data volume is low, but you want a long *credit* (not
data) expiry period, then you may want to have a look at one of their
internet on your *mobile* (phone) pre-paid products. That's what I use
when I'm in Oz (for 2-3 months at a time). The data costs for these
'phone' products are somewhat lower than the 'laptop' products, but the
speeds are lower. I use 'phone' and 'laptop' in quotes, because you
probably can use a 'phone' SIM in a laptop and vice versa, at least that
has been the case for the 'data' SIMs I used.
<http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles/prepaid-offers>
<http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles/extras>
I use the "Telstra Pre-Paid Cap Encore" offer, which is a kind of "It
doesn't cost you *anything*!" [1] kind of offer, but it has a $300
credit limit because Telstra is not *really* in the free-for-nothing
business! :-)
HTH.
- Use the Long Life offer and a $20 or higher recharge to get a longer
(than 30 days) *credit* expiry time.
- Switch to the Telstra Pre-Paid Cap Encore offer.
- (For example) Recharge with $40, use upto 600MB of data or/and upto
$510 worth of calls/texts or/and free calls/texts between 6pm-6am, all
within 30 days, and after the 30 days, you *still* have all your
credit, i.e. it cost you nothing.
No, I couldn't believe it either, until I discovered the $300 credit
limit, i.e. you can use this trick for about five times maximum and then
you have to start paying for *something*. Anyway, not bad, not bad at
all!
Yeah, but usually Telstra's direct products are not so cheap.
My data needs are about 1 Gig a month or less. And I'm not too fussed about
mobile calls, rather data reception.
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